Liverpool Message Board
- Govinda Govinda Dec 14, 2013 18:46 Flag
I saw Wenger speak with some frustration to Flamini while Kos was being taken care of on the field, later he took Flamini of. I wonder what that was about. I thought we came even more undone once Flamini came of. I like him and the way he plays yet we don't know his assignment. I also think Ramsey has dropped a little bit his game, he now is back to holding on to the ball a little bit too long again, when being pressed like City did, that is not a good habit.
Finally Wilshire should get a talking to, on one of the last goals he was pushed over around mid field, by Nasri I think, and he did not get up to chase Nasri who became part of the three City players who scored the goal on the break. Wilshire did not play on Wednesday and should not wait for the ref to blow the whistle, it was old Arsenal cry baby type of behavior.
So good to have Walcott coming back to his old form and I for one am happy we have Vermaelen as back-up at CB. He might need a few games to get used to Per but this could be his chance to regain his former high level and his place in the Belgian national side. Having said that I hope Kos will not be out too long.
I am not too worried about the result and expect an other loss to Chelsea but that does not put us out of the running.
- Govinda Govinda Dec 12, 2013 09:13 Flag
The same will apply for the City game Ie City will be the more rested team and already have the deeper squad. I think we did a good job yesterday against Napoli in the first half, we should have been more determined to score and could have gotten the draw. Giroud is not deadly enough, compare that to Higuain who scored out of nowhere.
I am happy and don't care too much if we get a Barca or Real, being eliminated from the knockout stages is better than playing in the "other cup" like Spurs.
- Govinda Govinda Dec 10, 2013 11:26 Flag
For me Everton are a better team than Man U (at the moment at least) so why would there be shame for Man U to lose? Chelsea are a bit of up and down under Moureen and losing to a side who play better than they do (on most days) is not a shame either.
I could live with a defeat against City if it came with a win against Chelsea. On the positive side Chelsea play 9 games in December so at least all contenders have a heavy game load. I am watching Flamini's injury situation because he seems to be getting injured often now. I he manages to stay fit I am optimistic for December since I am not sure Arteta's old legs have seven games on the trot in them and to maintain our solid defensive record we need strong performances from our defensive midfielders.
I am not so bothered by being in 1st come January since I don't believe the PL will be won in December however if we could open a 7 point gap that would be a big step in the right direction.
Am I correct in assuming given our +5 goal differential vs Napoli's -1 that we can afford to lose by 2 goals against them?
Everton are dangerous and play well at the moment dispatching without too much trouble of Man U and being miles ahead of them in the table, they will arrive with loads of confidence.
If there is anything we learned about the losses to Chelsea and Dortmund it is that we rely heavily on a disruptive defensive midfielder in the mold of Flamini (Artata can do a job but is not naturally that guy, and to me is left wanting in this role at the highest level but he is still crucial at PL level), that we are bit thin in depth at the moment, we looked particularly tired against Dortmund who I believe out worked us by more than 10km collectively and that Chelsea should be favorite for the PL title.
Finally I think if we have any money left in the kitty we would be foolish not to buy a top striker to give some depth because Bendtner doesn't have what it takes and Giroud can not be our only option.
Getting Walcott and Podolski back to add some much needed width and depth to our squad will provide a big lift.
It was nice to see Vermaelen out there and I also thought that Wilshire played one of his better games.
- Govinda Govinda Dec 14, 2013 14:48 Flag
It feels nicer to be humiliated and still be in first than not be humiliated and to be in 9th.
PS: Funny how one team is never humiliated yet is in 9th and the other gets humiliated all the time yet remains in 1st!?!? Go figure. You think this has anything to do with the observer?
- Govinda Govinda Dec 14, 2013 16:36 Flag
You should always come up with a response after receiving #$%$ for 8 years it is time for you to hit back. It is just too bad it can only be things like "you idiot" and stuff of that caliber.
- Govinda Govinda Dec 12, 2013 10:33 Flag
I also watched the game and normally I would be very nervous about this game but at no time did it feel to me that Arsenal were in danger of not qualifying. Sure, I don't think this team is at its best trying to defend a 3-0 lead and that is what it looked like they were doing last night but 1-0 down after 90 minutes it never looked close to us being knocked out. The first half we were solid and I thought once Cazorla went out and Ramsey came in we became a bit sloppy.
I think this loss might set us up well for the City game.
- Govinda Govinda Dec 12, 2013 12:58 Flag
Now you are being silly, and heavily biased. Ajax and Celtic never had a chance to get out of group H. Two tough teams does not make a tough group since more often than not they both progres to the knock-out stages. Napoli, Arsenal and Dortmund are all miles ahead of Ajax and Celtic and as was proven, where well matched against each other. This was the most competitive group and the final standing proves it.
If you cant enjoy the journey don't make the trip. I am enjoying this one at the moment. An unlikely loss at Old Trafford would not change that. At the moment the wins against Liverpool and Dortmund on the road are much more meaningful. It will take a while before United become the threat Liverpool were until last weekend.
I think United have to be realistic and forget about the PL this year. They have an inferior squad and a manager trying to find his footing. They should be happy to qualify for CL football. In my book that would rate as a result for them.
I still think Chelsea are our biggest threat.
- Govinda Govinda Oct 31, 2013 11:08 Flag
It is not great to be missing Arteta and Flamini but I am still optimistic. In their absence we can not be considered favorites in the next few games but we are not really underdogs either.
Arteta can play against Dortmund which is a plus and a draw there would be a good result IMO.
We should have a chance against Liverpool despite them having the best combo upfront in the PL. Giroud and Ozil had a little rest and Podolski is close to returning.
I think the next 3 games are 50-50 now before flamini's injury I would have slanted them in our favor 60-40.
- Govinda Govinda Nov 12, 2013 13:31 Flag
If you think Man U would have won the PL last year without RVP you must live in a nice world. At least I have no qualms about identifying him as the main contributor to our CL qualification in his last season with us.
I lover the "respectful" comment particularly. I can only conclude that you find it disrespectful if I think a Man U player is over rated or of I think your team is not so special as in past years? That is a very interesting definition of disrespectful worthy of some soul searching on your behave I would dare to suggest.
To ease your apparent pain and discomfort with my opinion, just because I think Rooney is over rated doesn't mean I think he would not be an asset to most teams included Arsenal, ceterus paribus, but at his current salary I don't think he would be worth the money, and there are many equal or better striker out there, RVP to name but one :-)
The idea that my friendship with prof would be tied to my opinion on Man U is laughable, as is the idea that friendship requires identical opinions on football.
Man U clearly struggling without RVP. I think they dropped 7 out of 9 without him and over used him over the last season and a half. I think he is done and burned out and too old to get back to being the dominant player he was last year. Of course it doesn't help he is in the hands of a manger who doesn't know how to use him. This is not great for Holland's already slim World Cup chances. (Or maybe RVP is saving himself for the WC having seen enough of Moyes to know where this season will end up.)
Qute from today's press analysing the stats on the top 15 PL strikers:
The Arsenal striker’s statistics make interesting reading. Of the Premier League’s top 15 scorers, Giroud needs by far the most chances to score, averaging 7.86 shots per goal, with Jay Rodriguez of Southampton the next highest at 6.00. Giroud’s percentage of shots on target is also the lowest at a poor 30.31%, with Loic Remy the next worse at 36.17%. Of the top ten scores in the league, Giroud has the lowest ratio of goals per game, currently at 0.48. The stats suggest that, although the Frenchman’s importance to the Gunners is unquestionable, Giroud is wasteful and could be improved upon; Arsenal’s reported interest in Diego Costa – who averages around three shots per goal, with 57.45% of those shots on target – seems unsurprising.
It is a bit stupid for anyone to say we can not win the PL, just as stupid for anyone to say we will win the PL.
I do disagree with your assessment of "one simple signing" for me both Ozil and Flamini are crucial contributors to our current strength. It is hard to see how we could be 5 points clear without them.
We finally have a balanced squad with mature players around their 30s in Arteta, Cazorla, Flamini. Rosicky and a proven winner in Ozil. Perhaps most importantly we finally didn't have to deal with our best players leaving and having to integrate many new players.
This squad can win anything but as always injuries could change that, at the moment I don't think we could deasl with a prolonged Giroud absence, for this reason I would sleeep better if we sign an other solid striker in January.
Walcott might be back for the Man U game!!!!
- Govinda Govinda Dec 12, 2013 13:04 Flag
I am not too worried about the city game. Sure they have a big edge with an extra day rest but they try to play football and that works in our favor.
I think we made some tactical errors last night and I believe we should have brought on Walcott, I also still believe Arteta is left wanting at this level as is Giroud. But hey, we can't get it right every game and defending a 3-0 lead is always hard.
I predict a good result against C|ity and can watch the game in the comfort that a draw or loss is OK as well.
I am more worried about the Chelsea game.
- Govinda Govinda Dec 12, 2013 17:50 Flag
A bit touchy? I don't recall saying or thinking you can't have an opinion or calling you an idiot like you do so easily. I just think you opinion is silly in this particular case. 2 good team and AC is not even that good, don't make a group of death.
And yes Ajax, and I am an admirer of them, did beat Barca (without Messi), and Arsenal beat Bayern Munich last year. What is the point?