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That's the question isn't it? How much was AVB involved in the purchases - and even before Baldnini, how much was Mr Levy involved. I assume that the whole point of someone like Baldnini is the purchasing to the 'club plan' and the 'stability' of the clubs squad - but I would also guess that all directors in such cases get the input from the current manager as to any prospective purchase (or sale).
It would seem a bit counter productive to me to have a sporting director buying offensive type players when the manager is of a work ethic/defensive mind - or vice versa (as is being seen with Mata at Chelsea)
Not much longer left in the transfer market - how much does Mr Levy trust Tim (or Baldnini) in the transfer market? Will Tim sell the people just bought, or will the squad not change (much) until Tim proves himself one way or the other - but there's a catch 22 - if the squad was built to AVBs 'spec', how can Tim prove his style with someone else's already misfiring squad? I would be surprised if we buy anyone at all this window - not even a replacement for Daffy - so will TNBNSD just have to make do?
So far the results have belied performance with both AVB and TNBNSD - but we are still in with a shout of the top 4. So still not bad for a team hit with a few injuries and not having as yet fired on all cylinders.
I think Levy is shrewder than that. He couldn't lose by appointing Sherwood. Obviously from what has happened, there was no 'plan' behind AVB's sacking - so the board/Levy already looked poor in way of planning (to me at least anyway!). Now, by appointing Sherwood, if it doesn't work - then what the heck - its Sherwood's lack of experience that's the problem. If it does work, how clever does Levy look by saving millions again by not appointing a 'name' - and with the added bonio that it looks like Spurs support the 'buy British' campaign.
Levy should have lost 'face' by not having a replacement for AVB in the first place, but that was deflected by Tim 'Nice BUT Not So Dim's appointment. Now, we're in a different 'phase' - a phase whereby AVB's botched exit will be superseded by TNBNSD (not quite as succint as AVB, but once you say it once or twice, it has a nice ring to it) success or failure.
Happy New Year to you.
I think he's been better than I thought he would in interviews - and I liked his post match views after the Utd game.
I just hope that the board give him the time they failed to give AVB or else no one will ever know what these managers are actually capable of and we'll just end up with a new manager being catapulted round the merry go round each year - like satellites using planetary gravity to accelerate out of the solar system - pulled in by the attraction of Spurs, and spat out faster than they can adjust their gas assisted chairs.
It's upon us again...another year, another manager and new hopes for a better year.
Best wishes to all here, and even those not here....
Merry Christmas and Happy New Year.....
He got more points in his first season than any other Spurs manager in the EPL era, and had the best win %age of any manager. Is that then bad?
Whether you or I like his style and where he got players to play does no affect what he actually did.
I did answer it Sfer. I said that I didn't have a crystal ball. Personally I don't think he'd do it. But again that is only my opinion - so for my 1 negative view, there may be 10,000 people who think he may have done it. BUT the only way of actually knowing is to let hm try. AND at the start, as with new players, I think it's only reasonable to allow an amount of time. For a manager, I think two seasons is a minimum (unless the manager makes such a rick that we're sitting 10 points adrift at the bottom of the table, with no way back).
AVB hadn't been a failure with us - he (as pointed out) achieved the highest number of points we had achieved - and had the best win ratio - so irrespective of my likes/dislikes and thoughts on whether he would have turned it around - he MAY have done it - and no one will now know because he's been sacked.
There are loads of people I don't like, but it doesn't mean that those people aren't any good at what they do.
I don't 'like' Rooney, but I think he's a good footballer. Daffy - I don't like that style of striker - but Daffy is very good at that style.
So my opinion of AVB and his style is neither here nor there on whether he could have got Spurs to 'achieve'. He may have personally bored me to death with his 'style', but I bet if we had got CL and done well by playing that 'style' , other supporters would have been happy. People like Mourinho - not sure about his 'style' either and I'm not overly keen on the way the man comes across - but I wouldn't dispute that he achieves by what and how he does what he does..
No contradiction - just divorcing my dislikes/likes from judging a person on what they've done/are capable of doing.
I say we're taking a step back because of 2 things:
1) I don't think I've ever seen a manager come in and not then change the squad. So we have spent £100m, and that spend may not suit whoever comes in. We won't get another Bale - so having £100m was like a Christmas present that we'll never have again. To then sack the manager before seeing what those players could do seems a bit premature.
2) Because of our track record. Name the 'successful' managers we've had in the 10 (?is it more or less?) that Levy has appointed. So using STAR - our track record doesn't actually fill me with confidence over the next manager. True, the next manager may lead us to the heights, but that hasn't been the case so far.
I posted this before, but Yahoo has a smart editor and decided not to publish it.
Although I dislike AVB and his 'style', he still has the best win percentage of virtually all the managers we've had. And irrespective of the two big losses, he has still got us to a reasonable points total - and achieved the highest in the club's history in the previous season. Could he have turned the 2nd half of the season and actually achieved 4th? Not sure, but giving any manager a season and a bit, IMO just isn't enough to see what they can do. Levy made the gamble when he sacked 'arry and appointed AVB - it does not say much for his and the board's decision making to have had so many managers anyway - and to then not stand by the latest decision that he made. He was under no pressure to sack 'arry.
Personally, I don't think AVB would have turned it around - but my crystal ball is no clearer than anyone else's - and to me the man should have at least been given the chance.
I was no great believer in him, but as it stands we could have achived 30+ points by mid-way and may, just may have got to 4th. Now, we'll have the new manager restructuring - and what then of £100m spent in the summer?
And if the rumours of Andy Capp or Maddonna or ... are true, I'm not sure where it will leave us anyway.
But should AVB bear all the blame? Surely, given the managers we've gone through in the past few years, questions have got to be asked of the board - as whether AVB was good bad or indifferent, the board have appointed (and sacked) a fair few mediocre managers.
If Baldninni then did make the purchases in the summer (with Levy) - then unless AVB specifically requested those players, surely the wisdom of the purchases also has to be questioned?
Bit of a balls up though - as just when I thought we were looking like a top 4 'consistent' team, we'll be taking another step back.