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Seen it too, even his own comments.. To be honest, it doesn't excite me one bit, especially because Sakho "could" be fit to make the bench for Stoke, AND we've got 6M ILori w/ his chance to be 1st in line behind Skrtel/Toure. Sakho will be back, and there's Kelly, plus we could always recall Wisdom on emergency loan. CB is so irrelevant to me.
We need another high calibre wide attacking player more than anything, then a mid and fullback.
I'm being a bit more harsh on Kalou, than I really have ever done. He always, always scored goals for Chelsea, fast, direct, and skilled. He's scored for fun in France, knows the EPL. NOT my first 10 choices, but if it's a 2-3M purchase, he's instantly better than Moses/Aspas..
The two we outta be after no matter what, even if for summer, are Jorginho and Iturrbe both from Verona.. Such classy young players. Could have Jorginho now, which would be stellar
latest news / rumour is that we and Arsenal are in a battle over Kouyate from Anderlecht. Seems highly rated and a centre half which to me signals the end of Agger.
Nothing else really to report from me apart from the fact that I'm glad that are moving away from Chelsea players.
Yea, I think we / Chelsea may be closing our account together, since they're apparently annoyed about Moses playing time, which is ironic, since he'd never suit up for them. I'd guess they're concerned with him improving his re-sale value, which is worth little right now. Mata claims he wants to fight at Chelsea, so let him. I thought Bertrand would have been a nice move but that's out, and Cole isn't believable.
I keep a close eye on the media over in the Catalan world, Tello just seems to be a stand still. He has 0 chance of world cup, especially staying there, so maybe he'll force the issue. Montoya seems all but certain to stay.
It's funny with Kalou, 2 years ago when free, I'd snap him up, always thought he was skilled and a good goal scorer, now, I still see he's prolific w/ Lille, but prefer someone else. Maybe I'm obsessed with age, as we're becoming accustomed to. He is better than Moses and Aspas, that's for sure.
I'd love Jorginho, who's been a rumor for 2 years now, he is classy. And also Iturbbe from his same team Verona, but he can't leave until the summer. The agent of this Cheik Kehoyte guy from Italy says we're in the hunt, but who knows. I'm tired of Salah at this point, feel like his time at LFC is up already haha! Just give me Tello, Jorginho and a fullback, and let's roll.. Diame would be nice too.. Menez is one that's gone VERY quiet and he's out of contract.. Just Sahin .. (get it?)
Agger's had a scan but no news yet . However I believe his time at the club is coming to a close, be it this January or more likely the Summer. His tendency to get injured and switch off mentally is a problem and I don't think that Rodgers is keen on it.
yeah Moses can go and I did read a little snippet on it yesterday. I'm glad. We're at the stage where we do not want rejects from other PL clubs. Chelsea included and that brings me to the Kalou stories. No thank you!
Tello is exciting and I'm willing to be patient about it but we MUST qualify for the CL. To me that means good investment now. There's a few players out there that need game time with a world cup looming. Mata would be nice but I just don't see Chelsea selling to us.
Rakitic has been going on for a while now, and to be honest, if we bought only one player, I think it should be him. I get to see him regulary in La Liga, and he is stunningly good.. everything I think BR wanted in Mkhitarayan, only his numbers are far better..
I think Salah (just a guess now) will get done, but seems like something is interfering. All the news in Spain is that Barca are not allowing to let Tello leave, and he may be forced to push it, which is something he has to think carefully.. I think it would be the best move for him, but I've never been forced to give up and turn my back to Barca!
What's worrying now, is that by the time I wake up, long after you all, is that we may have lost Agger, yet again. And, for all the moaning of too many CB's, we'll be down to Skrtel and Toure, with ILori a prominent figure, only Kelly as any back up to either fullback.
I'm not sure of the conditions, but maybe we outta contemplate recalling Suso, and might be forced to with Wisdom, out of necessity. Assaidi has been doing really well, and I'm finally on board with seeing the backside of Moses.. I think he just doesn't care..
Here we go again. Losing the track of this thread.
Anyway, some new names in the hat.
Dele Alli from MK Dons
The Kalou rumour isn't going away either.
Not convinced and nervous by the names being touted about at the moment. Tello and Salah seem to be moving back to Summer deals. Please don't screw up this opportunity for a top 4 finish by buying poorly now!
It was semi strong.. He surprised me by starting Agger, and that proved to be a mistake, since the Dane (yet again) limped off injured and we played with 10 men for the last 15".. Nobody was able to watch it anywhere, but from what I was able to read, Alberto was really good, and our best player in the first half, but he was subbed off for tactical..
I guess the positives are, Aspas finally got a goal, Alberto got a start, Kelly played a full 90" and was good, Jordan/Stevie/Lucas made it through uninjured, and Kolo marshalled well in Skrtel's stead, keeping another clean sheet. And, Sterling continued his brilliant form..
Let's hope we get a few bodies back for Stoke, because we won't want to go there this thin and frail. Agger missing for that one, could be a blessing because Skrtel and Kolo might be better suited, and maybe Kelly can push Glenda over to LB.. Roll ON !!
My view on this would have been to play a really strong side, get ahead and haul players off when the job was done. Rodgers took the other view and gave a run out to other squad players and for 45 minutes it didn't work. It shows that we need some squad depth and there's too many players that aren't up to scratch in my book.
Anyway job done so back to the league now.
So, we've managed to get through our festive period, in so/so shape.. I say so/so, not so much for results, but because unfortunately, but predictably, we've suffered injuries, and bad ones. For me (imo) Allen has been absolutely fantastic, and allowed Henderson to really develop, and giving Lucas much needed support. Sakho hurts because he was forging a commanding partnership (though shaky on the ball) with Skrtel, though Agger is more than capable of doing the job, if he keeps focused. Then of course, Glenda hurt herself shooting the ball and stubbing toes into the turf.. only her!
Anyways, so the quandry is really over the Romance of the Cup, who BR has available, who starts, and how to prepare for this, while making sure we're close to 100% for Stoke, which is much more important. The poisoned chalice of course, if we win and someone gets hurt, Rodgers is to blame, if we lose, we lose at Anfield, we're out of the cup, Rodgers doesn't take seriously, and we lose to Oldham two years in a row.
My lineup, and I guess it will give my thoughts in it, goes like this:
Mignolet (no rest needed, Hull barely worked him)
Kelly, Skrtel, Toure, Cissokho (Kelly needs to, Cissokho can use time/be risked, Toure/Skrtel just fine)
Lucas / Henderson (This part is brutal, I want to leave both out, or 1, but can't seem to do it)
Aspas-Suarez-Moses (Don't think much to change here, obv just pray w/ Suarez)
If it's something like that, we know Suarez wants to play, get him off early as possible, get on Gerrard for Jordan, and toss in whoever, to get Lucas off.
Oh, and one more thing Jason.. you forgot to say the picture was a great photoshop job haha! Salah's head on Coutinho's body.. It's quite funny, but I'm sure he'll be in Merseyside Friday to put his own head back on..
Liverpool did secure first option on Will Hugues of Derby County, with Wisdom extending his stay for the remainder of the season.
Tello's agent met with Barca Sports Director today, and apparently he does want a loan away, but prefers Spain, and Valencia now seem the likely destination. I think he's worried about failing in a short period, vs going for the league he knows.. I don't know that doing well at Valencia does him much more good, then doing well in England, but it's his choice.. I'd be stunned if we got him now
A bunch of babble now Mohammed Salah will be in Merseyside by this weekend.. I even have a picture downloaded of him holding a signed LFC shirt Who knows. This guy's story changes more than my socks.. People seem up in arms that he's headed our way..
Just going to sit back and laugh (and cry)..
The interesting (and frustrating for me), is everyone in, and everything I can read, in Spain, says Tello is coming. Anything else, besides Sky 1/3, says otherwise. I know Rodgers won't say anything, so it's just a frustrating situation, aside from him being a favorite player, just knowing how massively he would impact us. We had 5-6 clear 1v1 chances yesterday, and players like Tello, and that Barca Calibre, finish for fun..
Anyways, yes, I saw that same article. Glen really, really is terrible. Yesterday, again, he offered nothing, and he must be the only footballer on earth, aside from Hargreaves, to injure themselves, taking a shot, and jamming their toes into the turf. He plays slow, lax, and just doesn't seem to care. I'd read some contract things about him prior to the season, about not wanting to renew, or money, and if that's part of it, get him out. He wouldn't even find a spot in a top 4-6 side.. Rafael, Walker, Sagna, Zabaleta, Azpilicueta/Ivanovic, Coleman.. Good Luck Glenda..
As for Agger, with our lb situation so bad, and Sakho hurt, he can't go anywhere, and until we either recall some players (Assaidi / Suso ??) or bring in someone new, Aspas can't go. End of the day, people do complain a bit much over "squad", but if you didn't have a squad, you'd send 11 players out, and a backup keeper. That said, Aspas showed a lot more effort, strength, and a few nice touches, than I can remember, so he should go again in the cup match. Same for Moses. Thing with Moses is, I think he just has to be a starter to show the quality we had seen in glimpses, but he's not reaching that with us..
End of the day, we need 2-3 bodies, badly, and quality ones who can start, or push the starters to the brink. For now, I want to see Alberto get a go, and more Aspas.. Kelly too, I'm done with Glenda..
I'm hearing the same things Jason.
being a long term Liverpool fan I really enjoy the fact that the press are guessing what we're up to in the transfer market and the club management as a whole. That's the way we used to do it until the Spice Boys came along and the Benitez waged his own press room for his own self gratification and waging war on the two Texans.
However we are very quiet to day, even by our standards. Too much United speculation at the moment. Which I don't mind either!
Tello would be a great signing no doubt. On the flip side I saw an article yesterday on players that should leave. The three names mentioned were Johnson, Agger and Aspas. I actually agree pretty much with my only concern would be squad depth. Johnson hasn't been great, Agger seems to switch off every now and then and Aspas has contributed zilch. Moses too in my book and over the longer term Lucas can go as well.
As the merry wheel goes round and round, it seems like I'm officially, and embarrasingly, a big fat, 0-2.. Supposedly we're very, very interested in Salah, and his fee is suggested around 7M, but for some logical (no sarcasm intended), it seems we may wait until the summer. Makes sense, with him having scored in both victories over Chelsea in the UCL this campaign, and many clubs interested. Maybe we can pay 17M, when his contract is only down to 2 years in August.. Scratching my head..
As for Tello, Spain says he's coming, everyone else, going nowhere.. For me, he is the IDEAL signing, especially on a loan. He's so talented, and experienced at 22.
I should realize by now, not only being a Liverpool fan, I just don't have the patience for this rubbish. Granted Rodgers said with a straight face last year the same thing, nothing is imminent, and Coutinho/Sturridge came right in, but I really wish, we could just be a little more encouraging and active. Too slow..
It's about the best and right players, BUT, we do need players, and I look forward to the window, where I don't feel such a strong need to say that. Surely, the slower we act, the faster Suarez will be looking to July!
I'm trying my hardest to ignore the numbers right now. I'm more interested in what and who comes in (and who leaves). I want to see players that can and will make a real contribution. Even under Rodgers we seem to struggle on that side of things with several signings just warming the bench at best.
If that changes then I can see us pushing on and giving those above us a real run for their money.
Figured I'd might as well start it's own thread, especially so I can converse with myself at this hour, and also correct myself, after my last comments in the previous post.
In regards to Tello, I'm going to play antagonist to my own favorite target, despite reading alot suggesting possible good news. In quotes from Spain: "Despite interest from Liverpool and Valencia, Barcelona don't want to let Tello leave on loan. He'll complete the season at Barcelona."
Tello is on the bench tonight for Barcelona friendly match in Indonesia, China or something. Also, of more negative news, per a Barcelona source, because of recent rises in playing time, Martin Montoya (rb/lb) has asked to re-open contract extension talks. (Alba & Alves now healthy, so maybe a loan exists)
Those come from a respected Barcelona / Spanish source, so, for now, I'm just rolling with the Mohammed Salah story only, waiting to see that done, hoping we can pull off Tello, which seems to he his decision.
Watch this space, and the tabloids (blah) .. tick tock tick tock..
I usually like this, and find it easier posting, in the summer, so I apologize to you guys and anyone else reading if I'm off, but I'm going off the typical dirt digging that I do, reading/conversing in Spanish, and then some things I just happen to read on my side of the pond.
Before getting into names, without any firm source, I am under an impression (this makes City / Chelsea laugh of course) BR has somewhere around 40M to spend, IF he can get the players he wants.
Topping the list, in no order, Ivan Rakitic (the most costly), Mohammed Salah, Martin Montoya, Jorginho, Cristian Tello, Juan Manuel Iturrbe (a buy for now, no move until Summer), and then 150 names w/ a dart..
Supposedly, Mohammed Salah, seems to be the very first one on his way in and to be announced, if the sources are right, as they're saying as soon as Thursday, perhaps no later than Monday after the Hull match. I doubt he'd be announced Thurs if we play that day..
Just my hunch, Salah and Tello, which would be spectacular additions up front/out wide, and like you say Loki, actually fit the mould and ethos Rodgers has, not just names and talent to fit into pegs.
Fingers crossed fellas!!
Let that be true! It will be interesting to see the dosh available to Brendan, but we know enough about him to trust he knows what's needed. What we won't do is buy 38 players like Spurs and try and integrate them in one go. He's going for a more organic approach.
We're on the verge of bringing in one of my dream signings, Cristian Tello on a 6 month loan from Barca.. It's being splattered all over the news in Spain already, and making it's way to England. Unless another club (Valencia) steps in, it seems all but done, and I'll be thrilled to death. Ideally, if it happens and he performs the way I would envision, we could try to make it permanent in the summer with Reina and/or Agger (whose strongly suggested) as parts of the deal.
Aside from what we all know, and said about the players above, I feel equally as strong about needing more in attack, hence, Tello and then another player like Salah or someone else. Our best form of defense in our wins, has been attack, especially at home, and in these past two games, we simply couldn't generate enough quality chances with all eyes on Suarez and Sterling the main threats, and little room for Coutinho to operate.
We really really deserved at least 1 point, if not all 3 at City, and could have crafted a few more chances for all our possession at the Bridge and nicked a point, but if you look at both games, all other topics aside, no Suarez, not many chances, no goals.
For as bad as our LB/RB and Lucas were, 2 goals would see us in 2nd place, or 3rd at worst, and we could have really set a marker and edge up in 1st..
This window, may be the most vital in as long as I know.. (Until Suarez part 2 this summer)