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  • A Yahoo! User Oct 30, 2006 21:39 Flag

    Rooney and Saha or Rooney and Ruud

    Do you think that Ruud leaving has unleashed Rooney and given him a free role now? In my opinion i think him and Saha work great together and compliment eachother well... see Rooneys comments;

    Wayne Rooney has praised Louis Saha for the way the Frenchman has stepped up to replace Ruud van Nistelrooy at Manchester United.

    The striker has hit six goals so far this season after inheriting first team responsibilities from van Nistelrooy following his summer move to Real Madrid, and has flourished alongside Rooney at the sharp end of the United attack.

    Saha's form has been the perfect answer for Sir Alex Ferguson after being criticised for his sale of the Dutch international, and Rooney - who scored a hat-trick of his own on Saturday - says his new partner has proved a more than adequate replacement.

    "I've had to adjust a little bit this season because Ruud and Louis are two different types of players," said Rooney in the News of the World.

    "Louis is a bit better running in behind than Ruud was and I think he is also stronger and faster.

    "So playing with Louis gives me a bit more time to get on the ball.

    "To play with Ruud was good because I could learn a lot from him.

    "He is one of the most, if not the most, naturally gifted strikers around.

    "We obviously knew we would miss his goals this year.

    "But Louis has now come into the side and has done really well."

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    • Saha, he's better for the team as a whole.

      United are far quicker, far more creative and far more potent with RVN gone, they don't convert as many chances but get 5 times more chances to cancel it out.

      I'd still like RVN in the team for those grinding European defence fests but he'd never sit on the bench for the premiership :)

      At any rate a quarter of the way through the premiership season we're on course for 99/00 amount of goals but far less conceeded, and this in what is traditionally uniteds weak period. We're rocking out,.

    • It is hard to compare Saha and Rudd, they are totally two different style, though, we can note from the result this season so far and the team building very successfull with great team work, we can easily note the difference in outcome.

      The conclusion is Saha more suitable in current Reds and his contribution is positive and great.

      I saw an interview of Ole, as you know he is a kind man, but he said " Now the team is the best in the past few seasons, no one else who just focus on his own glory, no one else concern & unhappy you are starting or on the bench, the team spirit is the best ever. Then the reporter asked Ole who is the one he mentioned???? Is is Rudd??? Ole just smile and no reply!

    • Saha is a team player which Ruud wasn't and whilst there is no doubting that Ruud is a better finisher - Saha has a lot more to his game and will provide far more assists than Ruud ever did. Could you really see Ruud setting up Ronaldo for the third goal on Saturday?

    • I'm not surprised at all that the comparsion between Saha and RVN had started. Each of them has contributed wonderfully to the team. We all start to assume RVN as a better player because he has been with the team longer than Saha. However, given more time to fit in with the team and score goals, I'm sure Saha will score goals and contribute to the team whether it is scoring them, setting them up and contributing both on and off the field.

    • All and all I think Rooney and the team benefitted from the Ruud to Saha switch.
      RVN was the keystone to a 4-5-1 setup, which was deemed to have been needed to succeed in Europe. He was never that mobile and a sequence of injuries slowed him down a fair bit in the last 2 years, which did not complement him well with the pace of Rooney and Ronaldo. He needed players like Veron, Beckham or Keane to supply ther through balls and crosses he thrived on.
      Saha does not need the same same service, he can create for himself and in turn for others, and his speed open up counterattack opportunities Ruud simply did not have the legs for.
      Saha is never going to be as prolific of a scorer as Ruud, but the sheer number of opportunities he can create will make up for that. Add to it that his style of play complements the players around him, and it was a good switch for the team in the end.
      That being said I fully expect Ruud to top the Primera scoring charts this year and pass Raul and Shevchenko in the ECL - there is no pure goalscorer like him right now.

    • Ruud is a striker, Saha is a forward (I hope you understand what I mean). It's not fair to compare them. What you can compare is a the system of play that you must employ in order to facilitate either player.

      Ruud very rarely did any work in the middle of the field; Saha does most of his work starting from the middle. So the team can do more fast breaks and the midfielders can assist more going forward as they know Saha will come back to assist (hence more goals from different players this season).

      Saha has always been underrated by most fans. If anyone watched his play at Fulham they would never doubt his ability. He single handedly carried that team for most of their games. What has caused his delayed production at Utd is injury.

      If I must compare the players, the most important difference between the 2 is attitude. Saha is like Ole, he gives 100% all the time and is willing to contribute even if he's coming off the bench. Ruud on the other hand was happy when he was an ever present and scoring goals. Yes Ruud is more clinical (which is much easier when you're standing in the box waiting on your opportunity than when you have to dribble 30+ yards to create your chance). But Saha is the type of player who the rest of the team loves to play with (even when he's not scoring). Not to mention his pace and his least recognised asset, his amazing leap (especially considering his height).

      That's my 2 pence worth.

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      • It is hard to compare Saha and Rudd, they are totally two different style, though, we can note from the result this season so far and the team building very successfull with great team work, we can easily note the difference in outcome.

        The conclusion is Saha more suitable in current Reds and his contribution is positive and great.

        I saw an interview of Ole, as you know he is a kind man, but he said " Now the team is the best in the past few seasons, no one else who just focus on his own, no one else concern & unhappy you are starting or on the bench, the team spirit is the best ever. Then the reportee asked Ole who is the one he mentioned???? Is is Rudd??? Ole just smile and no reply!

      • To see the dfference between RVN and Saha you need look no further than utd`s 3rd goal against bolton. There is no way that RVN would have passed the ball to Ronaldo, but Saha realised that although he had a good chance to score given the goalkeeper`s superb performance there was no guarantee of a goal so he set up Ronaldo who couldn`t miss. Saha, like Rooney, isn`t interested in personal glory but does what is best for the team.

    • i know you can cope i'm just pointing out you can't build a team around 1 man

    • i dont think its that bad... we can cope without him.. it has been proven.

    • what if rooney breaks his leg?

    • Saha may miss a few chances but at least he manages to get himself into those positions and doesn't rely on the rest of the team putting them on a plate for him, as Ruud tended to do.

      Saha's strength, pace and movement make the whole forward line much more mobile and robust, not to mention potent. It's no surprise at all to me that we are scoring a lot more goals already this season than we did in the last few years.

      Ruud was undoubtedly a great player for us bu tthe extra teamwork and flexibilty we have with Saha up fornt makes us a much better team as a whole.

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