so is that an admission of defeat then ?. your purpose here, which you perform admirably, is to raise issues like this so I can have a jolly good rant. you're not exactly polite most of the time. I had to re-read your post and check the sender several times to make sure it really was you. My car is not that special, but yes it pisses all over a honda prelude. Enjoy the CL 3rd/4th place playoff as my scouse neighbour delights in calling it. Having to support chelsea must be a real burden.