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  • dsteer_lfc_68 dsteer_lfc_68 Jun 24, 2008 03:01 Flag

    Question to the serious MU fans about Tevez

    Just read that the club is looking to secure Tevez long-term, but looks like the deal might be murky. I believe you had the right to buy out the player for 10M, after already paying 10M for the loan period. So to buy the player its a 20M price tag, but the story hinted you were looking to extend the loan. Anyone know what might really be happening, and or do you think 20M is the right price, so why not sign him up permantly now.

    Just asking as I'm curious, and also wanted to compare the Tevez deal with the Masch deal (straight loan from WHU where we paid salary, but nothing to MSI, then 18.5M to MSI to buy him outright). Also wondering if most of you think 20M might be steep when you look at his output this past season. No doubt he's a top quality player, but on a goals ratio, is the price tag too high?

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    • Thanks all, I was not sure about the buy out details, or if you could extend the loan, but it seems some of you know the details better than I did. Seems most of you want to keep him, and I can see why. For those who were a bit disappointed, I'd venture its not the player that was lacking, but the system he's playing in.

      For me, a player like Tevez is a scrapper. While he's capable of beautiful football, his real strength is a tenacity to hit the goal. Much like Rooney, putting him a more structured system limits that freedom, so in some ways hamper him. While he's proven many wrong by being able to play with Rooney, I still think you need a classic center forward to balance your attack. This becomes more critical if Ronaldo does leave. Otherwise you become a bit one dymensional playing in up through the middle with your two scappers.

    • Tevez has been a bit disappointing for me, outstanding at times but very inconsistent. 20m isnt a huge amount to pay for a striker these days though, and he is still very young so I think its reasonable value. My only concern is that he isn't the ideal partner for Rooney, and imho we should be building the team around Rooney. He has been sacrificed too much since we stopped playing with genuine forwards in RVN and Saha.

    • In The Glazer era is is hard to know what is going on, as the family have consistently refused to meet and talk to fan groups about concerns over their intentions.

      I suspect (if you look at the incomings and outgoings transfer-wise) that we are a club that has to sell to buy, despite the Glazers' original claims to the contrary.

      Is Tevez worth 20M? He is worth close to that figure (maybe 16-17M).

      • 2 Replies to John S
      • In the Glazer era so far they have not meddled in United's affairs as far as the team is run.They have also backed Sir Alex over the Ronaldo affair.They do not have to come out every 2 days and inform the fans on when they last took a crap.

      • John S, hasn't it always been the case since Fergie's reign? He's continiously bought & sold and kept a tidy book so to speak. I appreciate what you're saying but I'm sure even if the Glazers claim that money isn't an issue, they'd be wanting the manager to continue his shrewd tactics. No business person likes to think that money is being wasted by employees and i'm sure they'd stand by Fergies decision if they were told that 20 million is a fair price for Tevez. The merchandising over a few seasons would probably cover the cost?

    • United have taken Tevez on a two-year loan under an agreement with Media Sports Investment (MSI) who own his so-called 'economic rights'. But United also had a clause that at any point during the two years they can buy him on a permanent basis by matching the original £10million fee. United would not be able to extend the current loan deal with MSI - under new Premier League rules agreed recently by the clubs, including United, that no player can be signed who is owned, partly or wholly, by a third party. So the club now intends to pay the £10million buy-out fee but will still have to agree personal terms with Tevez for length of contract, salary etc. I agree with those who say he is worth every penny. His understanding with Rooney is almost telepathic. Whilst I remain in diminishing hope that Ronaldo will stay, if he does go we will see much more of what Tevez brings to our team.

    • United have taken Tevez on a two-year loan under an agreement with Media Sports Investment (MSI) who own his so-called 'economic rights'. But United also had a clause that at any point during the two years they can buy him on a permanent basis by matching the original £10million fee. United would not be able to extend the current loan deal with MSI - under new Premier League rules agreed recently by the clubs, including United, that no player can be signed who is owned, partly or wholly, by a third party. So the club now intends to pay the £10million buy-out fee but will still have to agree personal terms with Tevez for length of contract, salary etc. I agree with those who say he is worth every penny. His understanding with Rooney is almost telepathic. Whilst I remain in diminishing hope that Ronaldo will stay, if he does go we will see much more of what Tevez brings to our team.

      • 1 Reply to welshmu
      • all I have to say about tevez is I wouldn't want to see him go.
        Someone mentioned slavery with this agent/owner situation...on that I agree its def a dodgy set up. Its something that eufa should act on. these agent/owners should be outlawed as a conflict of interests on the players behalf. lets face it its not far from slavery and if these set ups were outlawed in europe then it would soon stop as its the european transfer these leaches hope for

    • the deal is certainly no more murky than Mascharano.,and Tevez is worth every penny

    • i seem to be the only one here but i havent been that impressed.i know the stats are very good for a first season..but putting aside a few astonishing performance i must admit im a bit dissapointed.he was suppose to be the next maradona and yet i feel that many other players have shown more class this year.. im not sure why i feel that way but he's missed a huge amount of chances and that worries me,he's got a style similar to rooney and im not sure they compliment eachother well apart from that fabulous 1-2-3-goal between eachother..he's good but i was expecting more..as usual he seemed amazing when surrounded by average west ham players but in our team he doesnt look so good anymore

    • I think we should put up th emoney and sigh him permantly. He been a very gd player for us and i for one would love to see him stay in a United Shirt

    • Apparently he is still on loan...............

    • 19 goals lots of assists and scored a lot of important goals, yes he is worth every penny,

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