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  • Jibbs Jibbs Oct 3, 2008 23:00 Flag

    great news..

    Scholes and Fletcher have extended their contracts at United.
    Scholes has been given another year, whilst Fletcher has accepted another three years.

    Hopefully, Giggs' will also be given an extension.

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    • That's a classic Robert.
      "they always treat me like this, but, er.., they are all right. United have the most balanced squad of any of us anyway".
      Shall we just say "no, dont agree" next time ?.
      There's obviously a sentimental aspect to keeping these guys, I think there certainly was with Ole. But it's a luxury that few clubs wouldnt give their eye teeth to have. I think that when squeaky bum time comes around that these guys are invaluable, as long as they can genuinely fight for a place.
      dsteer accepted that they arent holding anyone back in his second post anyway, which reduces the initial post to "do you think they are past it ?".
      Some have thought so for years, and I have to admit to complaining about Scholes' passing rather more than the usual ex-pro drivel about how he's always their favourite player. But he was critical in winning the European cup last year, enough said.

    • "So let me get back to the original question which none of you want to address, which is the merrits of keeping aging players over bringing in youth. "

      As you said earlier, there's a danger on this board that when a non United supporter says anything sensible they are merely attacked rather than listened to. The groupthink here is worse than any other board, I think.

      But is it a question of keeping ageing players over bringing in youth? I remember reading somewhere that Ferguson once said his first lesson in management was to organise your squad so that they didn't all retire at the same time. United does seem to have a balance of young and old, more so than Arsenal (too young) and Chelsea (too old). Maybe it doesn't matter if you have the money to buy whatever players you need for half a season. In the case of United and Chelsea there seems to be the money to run large squads and large squads are needed to play strong teams week in week out for 60 matches in nine months.


      Robert

    • Based on the evidence of the first few matches of the season you may have a point. But as Harris says, we are always crap early on.
      Anderson ran your midfield into the ground the last time he faced them, so much so that one of them had to be told-off and given a second half detention for permanently showing zero respect for the official . Some Liverpool fans blamed that on lack of leadership from your iconic captain. Perhaps if your club had been stuffed full of title winners he wouldnt go strolling around Anfield like he's the greatest player you've ever had, which he isnt.

    • Im guessing the only United match you watched this year was the Liverpool one, judging by your lack of knowledge of whats been going on at our club.

      And we addressed the point earlier, quite clearly.

    • My comparison is between Scholes and Carrick. If you think he's better, then fine, but IMO he's not.

      As far as the coincidence of Carrick and winning the title. If you think he was the missing piece of your puzzle, that is your opinion, but for me I think it was Ronaldo coming into his own and getting you a bucket load of goals.

      If I wanted to wind you up I'd talk about the Bolton match, but wanted to get your opinion on what someone thought as "great news". So let me get back to the original question which none of you want to address, which is the merrits of keeping aging players over bringing in youth. Do you think Scholes is signing to be a mentor to the younger players, or do you think he could be a barrier to younger players if his playing denies someone the opportunity to blood in?

    • Alonso over Carrick?!

      You have to be a pretty biased scouse wannabe to come out with crap like that!

      Carrick has been an unsung hero the past two seasons. He was the ONLY signing last season, a season that saw us go from 2nd, to CHAMPIONS.

      Coincidence?

    • Well as we won the premiership and Champions league with Carrick, Hargreaves and Anderson , as well as Scholes , whilst you had Gerrard, Mascharano and Alonso, I'd have to take issue with you. You ( Liverpool ) had the chance to get United early in the season when they usually play their worse football. I'd just wait a little bit before deciding what the best midfield is.

    • Its all opinion, so not going to say your wrong, but will disagree with you. As evidence when you played us Scholes had an obvious off day, and we bossed the midfield, which is why we won. To me that was the difference on the day.

      I'm not saying either Carrick or Hargrieves are bad players, they'd make most clubs starting 11 outside the top 4, but I'm not sure they are as good as Scholes in his prime, or what is on offer in the clubs that have a chance to challenge for the title.

      Remember who your comparing with, Gerrard, Mascherano, Alonso, Lampard, Deco, Essien, Mikel, Fabregas. Maybe Hargrieves belongs along side these names, but lets face it his long term injury issues has to be a concern, and IMO Carrick while a strong player, is not quite at the same level. Anderson may get to that level, but he's got to prove he can be more consistent first.

    • Its all opinion, so not going to say your wrong, but will disagree with you. As evidence when you played us Scholes had an obvious off day, and we bossed the midfield, which is why we won. To me that was the difference on the day.

      I'm not saying either Carrick or Hargrieves are bad players, they'd make most clubs starting 11 outside the top 4, but I'm not sure they are as good as Scholes in his prime, or what is on offer in the clubs that have a chance to challenge for the title.

      Remember who your comparing with, Gerrard, Mascherano, Alonso, Lampard, Deco, Essien, Mikel, Fabregas. Maybe Hargrieves belongs along side these names, but lets face it his long term injury issues has to be a concern, and IMO Carrick while a strong player, is not quite at the same level. Anderson may get to that level, but he's got to prove he can be more consistent first.

    • I don't think anyone inside United nor the fans are knocking Giggs, Scholes or Neville. All 3 have given everything for United. All 3 still have much to give to the club either on the pitch and eventually, i hope in the coaching department. As for the midfield Carrick, Hargreaves, and Anderson are as good ,if not better than anything the other 3 top clubs could muster.

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