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I'm not sure I am making a mistake. I agree that football clubs are not ordinary businesses but nevertheless, their P&L is an important factor. Clubs are free to price fans out of their grounds if they wish and always will be. I talked above about the cost of visiting Weymouth FC and for the first time since the 1970s I will think seriously about going to watch Weymouth play when I am down there, which is several times a year.
Ultimately clubs are run not by fans or the FA but by individuals or syndicates who have large ongoing financial stakes in the club. RA is the exception at one end for whom money appears to be no problem whatsoever, although that may change. But most clubs are run by people who can't afford unlimited sums going in for unlimited periods. Even big successful clubs like Man U. These people have control over ticket pricing and the right to vary the pricing to increase revenue coming into the club. If they want to increase prices in such a way as to increase revenue even through lower gates what is to stop them?
Robert, I understand your point, but again you are making the mistake that football is an ordinary business. The FA's (now sadly neglected) Rule 34 stipulated that English football clubs were not to be run in an ordinary business sense, and that this would ensure that the poorer fans were not priced out, as when the chips are down these are the people who are the lifeblood of the club.
Interestingly, one of my mates who is a Chelsea supporter told me that a lot of people buy a season ticket to be shared by three people, as even they struggle to pay the overall price in spite of decent incomes. Is the inelastic demand curve a little more fragile than is generally accepted?
If you read "Power, Corruption and Pies" (the WSC collection from the 90s), all of this was accurately predicted as the outcome of plutocratic investment in the game.
For what it's worth, as much as I despise the Glazers, I would prefer even them to Roman A the oligarch (a lovely contemporary euphemism for a gangster - or shall we just forget the Aluminium Wars where Roman and his mate who entertains leading British politicians on his yacht allegedly did some pretty dodgy things, or maybe all those people involved died a natural death! Lovely).
You can say what you like about me - it's water off a duck's back and just because you keep repeating all this nonsense doesn't make it any truer.
Yes, if you continue your poor impersonations of me in order to belittle me then I'll bring it to yahoo's attention and I imagine they will continue deleting the ID's you do it from. If you say similar stuff from other ID's not impersonating my style I will have no complaint. I don't mind what you say about me. I just object to you doing it pretending to be me.
LOL "Habit", from the person with four posts to my name.
How dreadful it is that I quote other people so that it is clear what I am replying to. Must stop that. Yes, of course, I do it just to annoy you.
It's surprising really you haven't found the Ignore User button if I really annoy you. But of course the reality is that you aren't on here to talk about football or to be constructive in any way but just to be persistently childish.
Well done - I think that's the first time you've posted something which merits the status of a genuine opinion from one of your "Robert M" impersonation ID's. Maybe you should post it from a real ID.
I really don't care if people don't like me. On the contrary, if you are defined by the character of your enemies then I'm perfectly happy about it.
You "abu" me but you and Le Poseur fall into the same trap as many new to internet discussion in imagining you speak for everyone. You don't. You never will. None of us do.
Butch or Lady Dattah makes no difference to me. It is now common knowledge that your fantasies know no bounds. You are an inveterate liar, racist and pure scum of the worst kind. I shall not demean myself in public by replying to you in kind.
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popadopalopalis, teeespee, I don't want to interfere in your argument; but I will comment on the discussion where my name is mentioned. I have apologised to popadopalopalis, and confirmed my respect for him and his mainstream contributions to this board; just as I am happy to confirm my respect for you teeespee. I neither expect nor require any apology from popadopalopalis, as I was the one who made the first inappropriate personal comment about him, which I regret. Thank you for your support teeespee, but as far as I am concerned popadopalopalis' initial invective reaction to me was understandable and he owes me no apology. I hope that my statement on this is enough to draw a line under that issue.
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London and Manchester prices are simply not comparable, Chris, as you should know. I can get a pint of John Smith's for £1.20 in Levenshulme or a pint of Hyde's for £1.40.
The point is that United's price increases have been substantially above inflation, in spite of massively increased TV revenue, etc.
Anyway, I am predicting that many of the more fickle post-Hornby, Baddiel/Skinner trendy fans are going to melt away soon, and the clubs will be begging their traditional support to return to them after pricing them out. I notice that more games now have tickets on general sale, and the executive boxes are not being filled at Old Trafford.
I talked to some lads who were at the Hull game, and they said it was noisier than usual, more of the hardcore went, etc.
Interestingly when the prawns left early, aside from the usual "part-time supporters" chant, I did note that there were loud chants of "You're not from Manchester". Hmmmm....
Oh I see – like a dog to his vomit ... So you know that YOU are the resident nutter. First of all, I know little/nothing of matters Sri Lanka as I’ve left that island well over 48 years ago and have nothing much to do with anything going on there. Most people would have great difficulty in understanding how you know anything about it at all. The only facts you know are who posted what and when down to the minute and second on the Yahoo message board server as your life does not exist in any other medium.
What is it with you that you seem to take great pleasure in announcing that others are immigrants and possibly coloured? Do you hope that the reader might be a like minded racist? In your last post I was black, I see. Is it the beating you took in Southall? I see that it is most likely that you were duffed up by Bowyer too, so you have the need to invent the story of how you beat him up. Do you think that after schooling in England all those years ago, at a time when I was the only foreigner in the school your words like wog/black/immigrant are going to upset me? The only racist on this board is you. You were called for racist behaviour by Dsteer first on this board, some time ago and I in turn voiced my opinion that Indians or in this case, Sri Lankans do not feel inferior to any other race. One thing I will say is that I’m very glad that you do not represent my race.
Your stupid game of accusing every other poster who disagrees with you as being culpable of the very evil behaviour you possess and enact is patently obvious to all but the blind.
The last issue to hit this board of WelshMu’s post typifies your behaviour. He called you for your idiotic behaviour and why on earth did he recant I don’t know – reminds me of the Dinsdale Piranha sketch. Your response? A 27 or so worded post consisting of 4 expletives at him. In two years of having to come across your verbal diarrhoea, since you keep changing/switching your id’s, I’ve noted that every person who disagrees with you is treated with a liberal dose of tw@t, wa*ker, tos*pot, c*nt, ars*hole etc. I don’t think you can go one day without abusing someone. WelshMu has since apologised for an aspect of his post, do we see any regrets, apologies form you? None – none whatsoever. The discussion centering on Gunneresque’s behaviour and yours is a complete no contest. I do not see that G at any time shows any of the loutish, uneducated and uncouth behaviour that is you. He does not abuse, he does not bully and he doesn’t go to great lengths to take any matter further than the board discussion level. Your only serious claim to any superiority over G is supposedly on G’s written English. If he’s a foreigner, he’s doing bloody well! You are a bigot with an IQ far too miniscule for your ego.
For WelshMu’s benefit, let me add that you have posted all actual details of me that you could gather from my posts – my name, my original nationality, email address and town of residence (the rest of your statements are nothing but make believe). You keep posting these details as if I should be upset/scared of it. You posted under my real name for a fortnight or so, and I now read that you have even gone as far as ringing little boys and girls and scaring them. You have got some serious problems, you ought to get seen to.
It is one thing when busy people who visit the boards occasionally and don’t know who you are and in particular what sort of animal you are and then engage in discussions with you. However, it is not at all edifying to see board regulars who know you for the jerk that you are doing just that.
I hope I’ve made my position clear. Stay away from me and my posts. I’m not alone in requesting advance warning of each of your brand new id’s so that they can be placed on filter before we are forced to vomit at the bile you spout. Crawl back into your hole.
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