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  • McMullan McMullan Jan 12, 2009 17:39 Flag

    Tevez or Berbetov, who would you keep?

    It's a fair question, i'd be very interested to hear my Man U pals SERIOUS answers.

    ALMD.

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    • There has been criticism from United fans also, even here in Manchester somebody was being dismissive of Berbatov last night in the pub. This is my new ID on here, BTW. Mary Whitehouse got on the case with my other one!

    • But there was not the happy situation you refer to with Cole, Yorke, Sheringham, Solksjaer. Cole and Sheringham disliked each other intensely and Cole constantly complained about Yorke not starting. But they had to be professionals and accept the manager's decision as final. The problem that we have these days is that other clubs can now entice players away because of their Sugar Daddies (Chelsea, et al) in a way they couldn't at that time. Ole was the only one who was gracious about being on the bench, but he is a rare and special individual without a monstrous ego. I am hoping he takes a special interest in Welbeck and helps him along. Let's forget signing another galactico striker and go with what we have.

    • United have Tevez on loan till the end of the season, with first option of signing him permenantly. No other club can come in for him until the summer, and only after if United do not want to sign him. He had a bad game against Derby, as did Scholes, who didn't figure against Chelsea either. He'll get his chance.

    • Substitute? Tevez shouldn't have to be a substitute in the 1st place. Man Utd should have settled his contract where before signing Berba and others ie the Serbians. The way Man Utd treat Tevez sometimes really perplexed me.

      Berba isn't too bad after all. He was creative, passed the ball well, loved to flick the ball around. And Rooney was good at finding spaces to shoot, passed the ball around well too. Some people say Rooney and Tevez are similar in quality. Not quite really. When you need someone to breakdown a stubborn defense, you need a good dribbler, a so-called selfish shooter to constantly threaten the goal, a player with pace that can "tire" the defense. You need no one but Tevez. That is the unique quality this lad has. And if you think dribbling is easy and passing, flicking the ball around is masterpiece, then you'll have to think again. Only certain players can dribble really exceptionally and it takes unique talent to do that. Even the World-Best Player Ronaldo found it hard to get past one defender, you could see that he was stopped, intercepted most of the time be4 he could succeed. Easy huh?

      I have to admit that, Tevez recent form wasn't really good indeed. He played the Derby game and lost, both Berba and Rooney played the Chelsea game, scored and won. It gives the impression that Berba and Rooney are vital and more important to the team. But you have to remember that, Berba played all the away games against the other big 4 clubs, and Man Utd only managed to get 1 point. Suddenly the team played impressively and people can easily believe Berba and Rooney are better. Tevez's form has been on and off recently, but I can see that it could be because of lack of playing time and unsettlement of the contract. These things could really affect him.

      Man Utd still think they should let go of Tevez or keep him as substitute for long, they really have to think again. One good performance against Chelsea and one poor performance against Derby can't judge Tevez isn't good enough for the team.

    • Ideally both, but if Tevez's "owner" doesn't lower his price, it's just too much, so Berbatov.

    • Berbatov , with Benzema joining instead of Tevez.

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      • Benzema is taller and seems to be able to score more goals, and cheaper than Tevez, but can he stand sitting on the bench without sulking?

        If he starts, either Berba or Rooney would be definitely not pleased and could show their unsatisfactory face on TV, we would see that :D
        But Tevez would never do that, such a player with good attitude.

        Besides, Benzema has not been tested in EPL yet. We do not know whether this lad will adapt well in EPL. French league is different league, EPL is tougher.

        And Tevez is still one of the best "dribbler" in EPL, others could be Robinho, or even Ronaldo? But I can see that Man Utd may not suit this type of player with good skill and control of ball on his feet. Somehow I see that Tevez becomes a little average playing with Man Utd, just my feeling. This lad can do better but English style of football may not suit his talent, even if Messi came to EPL he could become average too. I hope I am wrong and Tevez can begin to show what he is made of. I hardly see him dribble and beat a man or two and rip apart the defense these days.

      • Surely if Tevez goes (which looks likely) we need to find the near-impossible which Is a non-egotistical Solksjaer-type who will accept being on the bench for a number of games with understanding of the squad aspect of modern football. I can't imagine Benzema would go for that as Rooney & Berbatov look likely starters for United. Maybe Welbeck can fulfill that role in a year or two as he is a Manc lad who always dreamed of playing for United (actually true in this case unlike the Evertonians who play for LFC).

    • How's it going, Soppy? Remember us lot - the men in black?

      The truth is that I would like to keep both at United as they have different qualities and might suit different situations. If that is not possible, by only the thickness of a rizla paper I would go with Berbatov, simply because many of Tevez's qualities can be replicated by Rooney, whereas I think Berbatov is irreplaceable.