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1) Carrick is just plain poor. Making a few interceptions here and there isn't good enough. His much vaunted passing ability is average at best, and put under pressure, he is a joke, with slow, flapping feet. Modric was excellent today - showed that he is by far Spurs best asset, over the criminally overrated 1 trick pony Bale and even VDV, who is a slightly better version of Tim Cahill. We need a player like the little Croat at the heart of midfield.
2) Rafael still needs to grow a brain. The decisions were contentious but he puts himself into these situations by not thinking clearly.
3) Anderson and Fletcher should be 1st choice.
4) Once the midfield is improved, our sterling attacking options will also improve by a good 15-20%. Nani was lost today because bloody Carrick can hardly move with the ball, and Fletcher was doing grunt work a lot of the time.
I thought Rafael was excellent today, nothing wrong with his challenges, and had Bale in his pocket but for two incidences where the over rated Welsh man crossed tamely to VDS.
Carrick and Fletcher were the only problem today, in so far as that they should NEVER play together!
They both contain, intercept and press well enough, but offer no creativity, and when together, when pressed themselves, end up playing the ball back, EVERY time.
Anderson should be starting every major game, what a difference he made when on the ball, looking to drive forward.
Giggs is being overused. 90 minutes of football played at 100 mph, for a 37 year old? Its a bit of a no brainer. Can't wait for the power, pace and work rate of Valencia to return and compliment Rafael. Park is missed too.
The game was there for the taking. I have always looked at Spurs as a poor copy of ourselves. Defensively they're poor still, offensively they have Crouch for f*cks sake, so as good as their midfield is, it still shouldn't be a problem. Even with 10 men we had a couple chances to nick it at the end. They barely tested VDS.
All you have to do is look at how Berbatov couldn't get into the game. No support from midfield, and even Nani was having to track back to get the ball. Same thing happens whenever those two start in central midfield.
Not good enough Fergie....
....but still much better than anyone else in the league. :)
I disagree with the criticsm of Rafael, neither warranted a booking for me, and the defensive side of his game has improved no end this season.
I agree with the criticsm of Carrick, but not that he is the reason Nani had a crap game. Nani didn't get himself involved in the game, was a bit lazy tracking back and didn't do anything with the ball when he did get it. And while I think we can do a lot better than Carrick, he did his job infront of the back 4 in the second half well and saved us with a couple of timely interceptions, so credit to him where it's due.
I agree on Modric. Hes an excellent little player, and is the sort of player with that creative spark we lack in the centre.
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I just think Rafael gives the impression of being reckless, even when he isn't. For the 1st booking, there was really no need to dive in, even if he did win the ball. For the 2nd one, I think there was a little contact, though the Spurs player dived. But he still needs to calm down.
Bale is a 1 trick pony. He has poor feet and runs fast in straight lines. There are better pure left wingers about. One only has to see how Di Maria is faring at Madrid to see that.
Modric really was excellent. Defended and attacked in equal measure. Dribbles, plays in tight spaces - he would fit into any team.
We have to spend big on a pure creative central midfielder this summer. We should be beating Spurs comfortably, but they're stronger than us in central midfield, and we lack any authority in our play as a result.
I think there's too much hype surrounding Modric. Granted he's technically gifted, and we lack someone with that creativity, but what did he do today?
He doesn't pose enough of a goal threat for me, and is far too physically weak to be a United player.
Give Anderson time to develop I say, he's got the lot.
Also I have a feeling Fergie is holding out for the likes of Cleverley, Pogba and Morrison to break through. Next season I expect all three to get a few chances.
bale in his pocket! what are u on eric.
bale got past him & crosses in on numerous occasions.
most of the time silva was so far out of position bale didnt even have to beat him. other utd players were having to cover.
Yes some of Carrick`s passing was poor in the first half but Giggs was just as guilty of some sloppy play, especially wihen utd had achance at the end of the game. Yet both players were solid when utd needed them to be
devon, stefan believes to be a proper/real fan, you have to say bad things about us,
you should be able to read through the sarcasm.
Giggs also, at the age of 37 ffs, has the ability to do something positive with the ball. Carrick isn't supposed to be a pure defensive midfielder, yet he distributes worse than many of those that are! Fletcher is better on the ball than Carrick - yes his passing goes awry at times, but at least he controls the ball a LOT better.
not at all.
you were the 1 that had the dig not me.
i was merely pointing out that you said it,
i think you will find i criticised fletcher a few weeks ago and evans last year, so did not find it apt for you to say the real fans bit.
look, you think carrick was crap, others, including myself, thought different.
2nd half he was terrific in breaking up play and starting counter attacks, if thats a spoiler then there is hope for the likes of makalele and mascherano
I think we're splitting hairs Stefan. We can agree to disagree on this, but ultimately what difference does it make?
The fact remains, they're both sh*t played together in a two man midfield!
Steve is probably right that Anderson was tired after a good run in the side, but the team needs him. Now Scholes is back, God knows what Fergie is going to do, but Im not overly optimistic!
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