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  • jim w jim w Jun 21, 2011 09:55 Flag

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    For the unaware this is a Spanish radio station, Apparently a story it ran is causing the usually fractious relationship between Madrid and Barca to go into deep freeze. It has quoted a Madrid Board member of accusing Barca of 'doping' their players.
    This is how these revelations started in Italy in the 90s......!

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    • AND? or are we to read into this that you are hoping that half the spanish league are doping their players and then get thrown out of europe and then we win the CL ? are you serious? or is this just another nothing post?

    • I didn't know this. Guardiola was suspended for 4 months and left Italian football after being found guilty of taking performance enhancing drugs after he left Barcelona. Six years later he was exonerated by appealing to our old friend Platini at UEFA, however CONI the Italian National Olympic Committee responsible for all sport in Italy disputed the appeal but they met a brick wall with UEFA.
      A bit of 'form' has our 'whiter than white' Pep.

    • Jim, I'm no expert on Spanish media, but do the local radio stations act much like the newspapers in being mouth pieces for either Barca or Real? If so can you really trust what any of the partisan stations say?

      To me this does not sound so much different from the yelling Maureen and the rest of Real did during the CL semi final. I suppose it would back up there claim that Barca are to cosy with UEFA to explain why after years of drug enhanced success no one has been caught by a random drug test!

      At the end of the day I'm not sure why its so hard for some to accept that Barca over many years have worked hard to build a very, very good side that is now the dominant force in their domestic league, and in Europe. Your own club has done that (although with less success in Europe) as has the club I support (although we did translate that into European silverware). Bottom line is Success comes in cycles, and Barca is at the height of there’s. Not realizing that and accepting your own club is no longer or at least not currently top dog suggests both youth and or inexperience in understanding that is how football works, or just sour grapes.

    • So Xavi, Iniesta, Messi et al. are taking drugs Jim? Just to clarify this with you - yes or no?

    • Stefan, how the hell could I know that?
      I am posting on the background to the insinuations from Madrid and why they may have any credibility at all.
      I didn't know of Pep's background before I did some digging, nor did I know of the reputation of their 'drugs tester'. I think its of some interest given their 'superhuman' physical performances.
      However if you prefer to believe everything is whiter than white ( which of course it could be) then that is your perogative. But please don't act as a 'policeman' to stop debate.

    • Hi Jim

      I'm not sure what you mean by the "doctor responsible for monitoring the drug tests at Barca". If you mean he was part of the Barca medical team then that shouldn't make a difference as I understand that the people that test for drugs misuse come in from the outside the club? If Barca players have been tested by neutrals and have passed the tests then I guess that ends the argument (unless all of the drugs' testers are corrupt and somehow beholden to Barca).

      At this moment in time what we know for sure is that they are a fantastic football team with world class players.

    • It is the 'independent' Doctor that has the dodgy reputation.
      Of course everyone is innocent until proved guilty.
      But I think its the attitude summed up as ' but Barca are wonderful, we don't want to believe anything that may harm that myth' that is of real concern. They are on a pedestal, and God help anyone who tries to do them any harm. An example of mass psychosis in my humble opinion.

    • Not playing 'policeman' at all - I leave the 'real fans' to their own devices. And having told posters who have written perfectly reasonable comments to 'go back to their own boards', it's pretty rich coming from you.

      Given the amount of times you've mentioned Barca and the 'superhuman', and given the content of this post, it would be pretty ridiculous, not to mention a waste of time, if you didn't think they were taking drugs. That's what I'm asking you - do you think they are drugs or not? A straight prediction, that is all, instead of the 'pseudo-intellectual' babble.

    • Stefan, same answer, I don't know.
      As you are very aware, I have thought for some time that there is something a little too good about how they perform their 'swarming' tactic. Given their relatively small squad and the number of games, I continually am surprised by their physical abilities. I am especially surprised by the incredible enhancement of physical performance by anyone who transfers to the club ( I don't mean whether or not Villa puts the ball in the back of the net).
      Maybe they are 'more than a club', maybe they have found a way of conditioning their players so much better than anyone else. Maybe... but I remain very sceptical.

    • I agree with you in the last bit you posted. Just because they are Barca they shouldn't be above suspicion and should be subjected to the same checks as everyone else.

      On your point about the doctor - surely they use different doctors to take the tests and not just the same one per club every time? If so then that's an obvious flaw in the testing procedure and not just for Barca.

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