Thanks, the one and only. It's funny that people bring up a final performance (v Bayern) and judge the competition success on just that game and forget the amazing performance away to Juventus in the semis. And as for the penalties in 2008, it's not a lottery, it's about keeping your cool and skill. Yes there can be luck involved but it's not a lottery. If it were, Germany wouldn't have won so many shoot outs and England would have won more.