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  • B4ts B4ts Mar 13, 2010 16:37 Flag

    ‘Mustn’t grumble’

    Reading your comments Andy, I recall one of Bates own comments after Fabian Delph left. It was to the effect that there is a small amount available for transfers and that Simon Grayson has proven unique amongst managers in so far as he says he is happy with his squad and does not need to bring anyone in/ viz. spend the money.
    In hindsight then SG's opinion was fatally flawed. JB indeed came off the transfer list in time for the new season BUT we still knew his contract finishes this year. Lambert was going begging at the Bristol club, but we never acted. This of course is all supposing that the dip in form was anything to do with JB, but he most certainly was not putting the ball in the net and another striker(why do they never play Kandol) could well have been the solution. Assuming we get promoted this time, we need 3 good strikers, which will mean buying 3 this summer regardless !

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    • Lads, SG has always said that he is happy with the squad, and also that he is a big fan of the loan market, and I have no reason to doubt that despite my differing opinions..

      Some loans have worked, others havent... Trundle, Vokes, Lowry (?) have been pretty rubbish, but look at Sodje, Doyle (at times), Gradel (when he was on loan), McSheffrey (at times).. there has been some quality there...

      My issue is how Grayson has used the loan players.. often bringing them straight into the starting lineup at the expense of a LUFC player who has been playing there regularly.. often these loan players are not match fit as they have been sitting in the reserves at their parent club and I have felt for people like Andy Hughes being dropped for Lowry, Becchio being dropped (and Kandol, Grella ignored) for Vokes earlier this year (and if you saw his rubbish miss for the wolves against man u, its not just us he was useless for!!)

      Loan players need to gain match fitness through 20 mins here and there for the first couple of games they are here, such as Gradel did.. they are guys with something to prove but their match fitness is not the same as guys who have been playing 90 mins every week...

      I think gradel has been massively under-utilised since we bought him, something more sinister behind it perhaps??? and i also believe sg has been hasty in releasing some players like my old favourite Prutts, paul huntington etc... competition is not what it was, smaller squad etc and i believe it has led to the complacency we have seen since new year....

      come on lads one zip tonight please!

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      • All in all Peter SG has nae done a bad job! Sure he has been over hastyin some things but then it would not do to be over cautious. Who knows what pressure was put on him to do certain things! As they say The proff of the Pudding is in the Eating! I have complete faith in Graysons ability to get us to the Championship this time out via Automatic Promotion! Unfortunately I can only say that I believe the Players can do it! Subtle difference there?

      • Mustn't grumble but.... The 1-0 score line flattered Leeds today. In a critically important match half of our players didn't turn up. This is possibly down to the point you made, Peter about reducing the competition for places by selling off decent players like Prutts.
        Ankergren (in particular), Hughes, and Killkenny (when he came on) were good. Naylor and Kisnorbo were solid. But White (whose inexperience allowed Puncheon to bully him), Snodgrass, Doyle, Howson, McShefferey, Beckford, and Becchio couldn't keep the ball, didn't pass well and were not in the game - Becchio even saved a goal for the Saints!
        Gradel was okay for the last 15 minutes (I suspect he's not played that often because of his over-enthusiasm/selfishness which probably gets up the noses of the rest of the team), and Bromby (who's yet to impress) was, agian, so-so when he came on.
        Southampton were good, Leeds were poor. Fortunately, the table stays the same. The next game against in-form Millwall could determine the outcome of season - anything less than a win will give cause to grumble!

    • The Leopard will never lose his spots Bats!

    • Apparently, Lyn, Leeds did 'try' to sign both Lambert and Barnard but they 'wanted to be on the south coast' - meta meaning: we didn't offer them enough!
      SG does like the loan market. It worked for Leicester and SG's thinking is probably influenced a lot by his time there - meta meaning: SG is Bates' ideal manager!
      Kandol is injured at present, so can't play, but why he's been left out so often prior to this is a mystery - meta meaning: trouble at t' mill?
      To be fair to Bates, it would be niegh on impossible to get decent upper Championship/lower Prem players to sign for a third division club - meta meaning: Bates is saving his pennies for when Leeds is in the Championship.