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  • Shred Master Shred Master Jan 7, 2007 03:22 Flag

    How to bring an end to religiously ordained terrorism

    No matter how many terrorists are arrested / killed in this fight against terrorism, if the underlying reasons why they have attacked us are not dealt with then more will take up arms seeing fallen terrorists as martyrs.

    The fact is that there is a lot of hatred towards the west because of western nations support of Israel. Our nations need to do something to bring about lasting peace. I think we need to encourage Israel to withdraw to the 1967 border. I also think we need to be firmer with Russia over their conflict with the Chechens.

    Another one of the reasons for Al Qaeda's jihad against the west has been the long term presence of US Servicemen in Saudi Arabia. I feel that if the USA could be encouraged to withdraw from Saudi Arabia that too would calm things down.

    Four British Muslims deliberately murdered 52 people in London in July 2005. That can never be allowed to happen again, and fanatics like those men must be 100% discouraged from violence.

    What are your ideas for ways to end this violence ?

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    • Nice points, however a fundamental issue remains unresolved, which is the Radicalisation of many by a few to meet the ends of a muslim domination theme, not acceptable in the UK. One seems to forget the problems which exist in PAKISTAN and why the TALIBAN emerged - The truth is that ISLAM is only happy when it creates strife amongst their own peoples and would wish to return to the Stone Age. Islam has nothing to offer the western civilisation or culture, nothing but hate. That is the sad fact of the matter. Islam stood by and watched IRAQ being tortured and gassed, the Western Forces stamped the maniac down....So where was Islam in all this, years ago they could have put an end to the tragic and aimless rule - What dir the Arab League Do - Sweet Nothing - arguing amongst themselves as usual - feckless.

    • During WW1 and WW2 non British subjects, from Germany and its Allies were deported. Those who held British Citizenship but originated from Germany or her Allies were interned and investigated and released when checks showed them not to be a risk to the population of this country. Unfortunately we appear to be heading again to a situation where some of those who have made their homes here wish us harm, in other words we have an enemy within. So I think we should act in the same way as our fore fathers.

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      • I would suggest a small island in the Shetlands called Gruinard. The War Department (MoD) used it for testing Anthrax as a possible weapon to deter Hitler from using such weapons. It was "off-limits" until a few years ago when a large sum was spent rendering it safe. I don't think it has been properly tested yet........

    • In all honesty, there will now always be a threat of terrorism to us all no matter how efficacious the countermeasures. It is impossible, without implimenting extreme measures (short of offending the political correctness of international audiences) to differentiate and seperate those responsible. Their true god is chaos, and all that follows, their religious fervour damns us all.

    • Boycott not appeasment.The government has made a sir of Iqbal Saqranie for his anti christian stance.

    • [izzie0923's reply to] shredmasteruk's 1st post in this thread.

      No matter how many terrorists are arrested / killed in this fight against terrorism, if the underlying reasons why they have attacked us are not dealt with then more will take up arms seeing fallen terrorists as martyrs.

      [Agreed]

      The fact is that there is a lot of hatred towards the west because of western nations support of Israel.

      [Islam hates Israel, because Islam NEEDS to either physically annihilate Israel or to Islamise Israel. Without which, non-Muslim Israel will only show Islam to be a counterfeit religion.]

      Our nations need to do something to bring about lasting peace.

      [Agreed]

      I think we need to encourage Israel to withdraw to the 1967 border.

      [Why should Israel be encouraged to withdraw to 1967 border? What caused Israel to need to mount pre-emptive strikes against those Muslim countries concerned?]

      I also think we need to be firmer with Russia over their conflict with the Chechens.

      [Why is Russian in conflict with Chechens?]

      Another one of the reasons for Al Qaeda's jihad against the west has been the long term presence of US Servicemen in Saudi Arabia.

      [Why were/are the US armed forces in Saudi Arabia?]

      and SI feel that if the USA could be encouraged to withdraw from Saudi Arabia that too would calm things down.

      [Wellington should have been encouraged to withdraw from Waterloo to calm things down?? Churchchill should have been encouraged to withdraw from Normandy to calm things down?]

      Four British Muslims deliberately murdered 52 people in London in July 2005. That can never be allowed to happen again, and fanatics like those men must be 100% discouraged from violence.

      [Having Israel, USA, the UK armed forces, to withdraw from where you would encourage them to withdraw from - will encourage or discourage more British Muslims to plant bombs in the UK?]

      What are your ideas for ways to end this violence ?

      [izzie0923's idea to ending this religiously ordained terrorism - rip the hearts out from true-Islam, true-Quran, true-Islam's authenicated hadiths and true-Islam's clerics.The heart of their hearts being to use every violence to subjugate non-Muslims under true-Islam.]]

      [What do you think of the ideas in my above replies?]

    • Mind our own buisness and stop interfering in other countries affairs would be a good start. Spend the billions this is costing on people in our own country would be another.

    • STOP believing in bullsh*t religions and start believing in yourself!

      1) Accept responsibly for YOUR actions.... The devil did not make you do it.. you have a brain you did it!

      2) Accept that like every other animal on the planet once you are dead you are dead...Dog - Mammal, Human - Mammal... ...both dead means DEAD.... Sorry but you will die part of NATURE and there is NOTHING you can do to stop it, so stop being in fear of it and looking for a way to avoid death by believing you will go to Heaven to live!... We are all living to die... it is the only thing people can NOT take away from you!

      3) Accept that there is NO heaven unless you make it in your own life here on this moving rock call Earth!

      4) Accept that there is a HELL they are war torn countries where Men are murder and woman a raped, then have their stomach slit open cause of religionist nutjobs!

      5) If you do not like people to steal from you, kill you, rape you, assault you then you should not do the same to them.. you do not need a religion to tell you that... You do not like something to happen to you then do not do that thing to others!

      6) Accept that if there was a GOD would the world be so fu*ked!... ... IF a father loves his child he will protected his children... CAN NOT see any heavenly father protecting all the Catholic in Africa dying of AIDs or WARS... DO YOU??

      7) Accept that the BIBLE, KORAN and most religionist books are Story books to brainwash and cause FEAR!

    • terrorists and i should know the world over especially middle east terrorists hate us in the west you can give them the world and they will never be happy they want to change us to there way of thinking we are and always will be the infidel.the way to beat them is to eradicate them from the face of the planet as far as cutting some inoccents head off in the name of allah they can keep their beleifs and religeon good and evil exist on this planet and it always will they are evil like hussein like hitler like stalin like polpot and we have to stop them and there supporters

    • You based your justification for the murderous Al Qaeda attacks on non-Islamic societies on the 'long term presence of US Servicemen in Saudi Arabia'. However that so called 'long term presence of US Servicemen in Saudi Arabia' only began after Saudi Arabia asked us to help prevent Saddam Hussein from taking over the whole of the Middle East following his invasion of Kuwait. As I recall it was Osama Bin Laden that created this as an issue when his loving(?) family turned down his offer of assistance. He has been having a temper tantrum ever since. His example has been replicated by the leaders of Hezbullah, Hamas, Iran, and related groups as an excuse for their blood letting against any and all persons that are not strict orthodox followers of their preachings. Thinking is not allowed in their ranks only blind rage based on propaganda.

      Islam has been focused on the elimination of all opposing religions and societies since it founding during the mid 6'th century. This predates the so called Western infidels by several hundred years.

    • If america and us stopped bullying little countries

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