Your right Mike S we won't even get in Europe on the Fair Play ticket this year!!! I remember the bad times too, first started going in 57/58 season. Went with my big brother and carried an orange box so I could see. On big games used to be passed over the heads to sit on the touchline behind the Paxton Road goal. Oh happy days. Will I see them again?? Come on you whites, lets bring back McNamara's theme tune.