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  • sledge sledge May 21, 2012 09:43 Flag

    Monday morning mad musings!

    According to todays headlines, it seems both Torres and Berbatov are unhappy at their current clubs.

    Torres has been out of sorts for the last 2 years, and ofcourse Berbs behaved like a $hit to force a move away from Spurs to Man Utd, and that makes many of us fans sick at the sight of him.
    Having said that, both are undeniably world class strikers who are hungry to get back to scoring ways.
    I'm pretty certain neither would want to come to Spurs, and I doubt Chelsea or Man Utd would sell to us anyway... also, it's unlikely we could afford either anyway.
    But one does like to dream on a monday morning ;)

    Would you take them? We are desperatly short upfront and i'm not sure we could attract any of the other players we've been previously linked with from abroad.

    Perhaps they'd take a punt on our exciting squad and feel they could prosper at WHL knowing they'd be guaranteed first team football.

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    • Sledge,

      I think you're right, neither would be interested, no CL football, a serious wage drop and seemingly our better players could be on their way.

      Shame because we are desperate for a class CF- Ade will probably leave due to wages, Defoe may leave due to not being given enough opportunities, Saha should go and VDV is a DM- not a CF!

      But whilst we're dreaming, I'd take either of them in a heart beat.

      Sadly I think we are more likely to be linked with Grant Holt.

      COYS!

    • If Chelsea come calling for Modder's again, then I would say Torres + £10m. Offer Torres £80,000pw + £15m " signing on fee " so it equate's to £130,000pw over 3-4yr contract so we dont break wage ceiling. I think Modder's will definately go this time, so at least get someone who we know can be lethal when on form, and as we know, there's no pressure on him to score as long as he assist's the team overall, so would be a regular starter. No CL but he can see were close.

    • You couldn't afford Adebayor. What makes you think Torres would be more affordable?

      Of course, there's the small issue that you wont be playing CL next year, which may restrict who will come.

      Vertonghen may yet be changing his mind by deciding he actually has ambition and therefore wants to come to The Emirates.

      • 1 Reply to John
      • Oh dear, you really think Arsenal have any more ambition than Spurs? Failing to keep hold of your best players, lack of investment in the transfer market, last trophy success 7 years ago?

        Yes I grant that you pipped us to 3rd but given we were only 1 point behind you this season whereas nowhere near last season, I'd be mindful about your team's own ambitions before talking about ours!! :)

    • "The key to Arsenals future success depends largely on wether or not they can keep hold of one man, Wenger"

      Had that said RVP I would have agreed and I know a lot of Ar$e supporters who think Whinger going would be a very good thing indeed. There were a lot of them voicing that very opinion during the middle of last season and you cannot hide from the fact that he has not bought very well (Mertsacker, Gervinho etc) and that he has not won anything for what, 8 years now!!

      Yes we are going to struggle again, largely due to missing out on CL football for which I do blame Arry, as that means we are unlikely to sign any of the top players who all want CL football but Ar$e are IMO in a worse position than we are. With that squad and relying on 2 or 3 players the CL could be a very big embarrassment for your lot next year.

    • "Ar$e are IMO in a worse position than we are."

      Delusion of grandeur, Sfer.

      Arsenal had the worst season in recent times by their standard and still managed to finish above Spurs. That tells you all you need to know about the two sides.

      Arsenal will be a more stronger position next season as their no uncertainty about CL qualification which hampered any proper preparation at the beginning of last season, and the club can offer Champions League football which isn't available at WHL. Many people forget that leading up to the 8-2 defeat at OT, Arsenal were away to Udinese for a crucial 2nd leg CL qualification tie on Wednesday night and got back to London from Italy on Thursday afternoon, before travelling again to Manchester for an important league game a day later. Meanwhile, manUre have been training all week for the Arsenal game. During this time, Arsenal were dealing with the loss of 2 key players (Nasri and Cesc). Arsenal won't face this sort of problem at the start of next season.

      Without CL football, I'm 80% sure that Modric will be leaving and I can see Ade willing to accept less than 150K pounds per week which is a ridiculous to pay for a player for any team in Europa League. I'm pretty sure Ade would rather go on loan again than accept less than his 175,000 pounds a week wages.

    • I forgot to add....

      Another factor to take into consideration............

      Last season (2011-12) Spurs rested all their key players for a league game per week last season, whilst the likes of Arsenal, Chelsea, City and manUre who were involved in the CL group stages had no choice but to use key players in CL games and league games.

      The above factor in addition to Arsenal having a nightmare start to their season most probably explain the one point difference between Arsenal and Spurs last season. Let's not forget that Spurs finished FIFTH in the table in 2010-11 when they had to joggle CL duties with league games.

    • Oh contrare Sfer, i think it's just a tadd early to be judging the likes of Mertesaker and Gervinho as 'bad buys', what with both having played only a slice of a season in the Premier league.

      True, there are Arsenal fans who are calling for Wenger to be replaced. There are Spurs fans asking the same of Redknapp, United fans the same of Ferguson. They are welcome to their opinion. I'll sit here safe and smug in the knowledge that nobody who really counts is listening to them so far as Wenger is concerned.

      I would love RVP to stay at Arsenal but if he goes he goes. Others have gone before and Arsenal have survived. A single player doesn't make a team. The man at the helm does.

      Wenger has been SUPERB.

    • CHAMP - that is just ranting waffle. Ar$e are not as good as they were, the squad is a lot weaker, you have not successfullly replaced Nasri or Fabregas and if RVP goes you will struggle and you know it.

      Fab - oh com'on please. Mertesacker is not injured - he's just embarrassed about how bad he is. Gervinho is playing as bad as his ridiculous haircut and there is no depth in that squad.

      I am not saying Spurs are fantastic or that we will do wonderful things next year BUT I am saying that Ar$e will struggle in the CL and the PL, win nothing AGAIN and IMO Spurs will continue to improve.

    • Mertesaker will be fine once he has truly acclimatised. Gervinho probably took the number of Adebayors barber ( did you see him when he first arrived at Arsenal!!!). Gervinho had the highest assist rate in the french league don't forget. Time will tell Sfer.

      Spurs are doing OK. No doubt they will move forwards. A good few years behind Arsenal though. Spurs still have to sort a new stadium,just for starters. Arsenal are CL material next term. Spurs? Thursday material. Any new players coming in/staying will take that into account.

      I doubt Arsenal will struggle next season anywhere near what they did this.

      Its nothing short of remarkable the way Wenger steered the team through the rough seas, after the wreckage, and onto dry, sun drenched shores.

      Many people are knocking Arsenal, yet from the moment they went 2 goals down to Spurs that last meeting, to the moment they took over Spurs in the Prem standings, they produced some truly FANTASTIC football. Football that any Arsenal side of yesteryear would have been proud of.

    • ''produced some truly FANTASTIC football. Football that any Arsenal side of yesteryear would have been proud of''.

      utter tosh you woofta. since you beat the spuds:
      QPR loss
      Wigan loss (at home)
      Chelsea draw
      Stoke draw (at home)
      Norwich draw (at home)

      hardly the stuff of dreams now is it?

      PMSL

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