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  • Jlock Jlock Jun 19, 2012 13:27 Flag

    Des Kelly on Levy and 'arry

    PS This is also then interesting IMHO - as even though Hodgson wasn't being put forward by all and sundry, he allegedly came out and said this:
    http://www.teamtalk.com/west-bromwich-albion/7624686/Hodgson-would-take-England-job

    I find it interesting in the terminology used. 'Pinnacle', 'honoured'....
    maybe it's an 'old guard' thing. It's odd as you tend not to recall what managers other than your own do. I didn't take much notice of it at the time.

    I wonder if West Brom started looking at the same time?

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    • Who knows "exactly" when Levy starrted looking and does it really matter. He would be not doing his job properly if he had done nothing IMO. There were probably lots of discussions between Levy and Arry and who knows exactly when and why Levy decided a succession plan was needed.

      Certainly the language used by Arry and Hodgson is "old school" and they bost saw the England Managers job as being the pinnacle of their careers. I am not sure if, for example, it had been offered to a younger man they would have seen it in the same way. Over recent years the job has become less of a privilige and more of a very heavy burden which has destroyed perfectly capable team managers. Venables, Taylor, McClaren etc. Sven was an idiot so I don't include him and Cappello didn't give a stuff because he knew he could go get another big team to manage regardless of what happened. Venables never really recovered and certainly Taylor is a shell of the man he was. Only McClaren has survived but he had to go abroad to do it and I just can't see him ever managing a big PL side due to the image of him whilst England Manager. Thats what it can do to someone.

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      • Sfer,
        Back in 2010 that's basically what 'arry said.
        http://www.timesofmalta.com/articles/view/20100910/sport/redknapp-would-take-england-job.326218

        I saw that interview transcript here when it occurred (probably ion yahoo) - but I can only find it in Malta.

        'arry was advocating getting young English managers to manage bigger clubs and even then saw himself as getting too old.

        I know it seems contrived, but the reason I bring up these posts/quotes etc is twofold:
        1) I still don't see why people are pee'd off with 'arry now over England, when these comments are years old.
        2) 'arry didn't leave Spurs. He was sacked. If it was also re England, then I'm lost as to the timing. Why not two years back?

        I also found it slightly odd that obviously 'arry still thought he was in negotiations re his contract (9th June?). I don't think Levy took the decision for 'arry to go when they had their meeting (on the 14th?). Given that as 'arry left, the press appeared already aware that the compensation had been sorted. It seemed like a cut and dried - ' allo 'arry, you're fired...' meeting, with it all pre arranged. I may be wrong.

        So, I may be misreading it, but I don't think Levy et al gave a stuff about the England rumours and 'arry's comments re England. I would guess something else pee'd them off or made them think he wasn't right for the future, so used the England bit as a convenient smokescreen under which to get rid of him.

        Strange the Sun (!) also ran virtually the same story as Des Kelly in the Mail:
        http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/4375944/Tottenham-bosses-prayed-Harry-Redknapp-would-get-England-job.html