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  • Gilley Gilley Jun 22, 2012 01:39 Flag

    redknapp's Firing

    Any chairman of a premier football club that fires a manager that saved the club from relegation in his first year and finishes top 5 consistently should have his head examined. The timing is also suspect;were all preoccupied with the Euros and if England do well Redknapp is ancient history. Redknapp was a favourite with fans and players. Those are big shoes to fill.

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    • Levy got to the point where he couldn't handle baggage anymore, even though it was only hand luggage. He had his fingers crossed on both hands and the cheeks of his arse slammed together hoping he'd get the England job.
      H---Give Glen Hoddle the job.

    • Vanessa,

      I agree whole heartedly with your sentiments, very well put.

      COYS!

    • "To me undoubtedly his biggest mistake was
      thinking he had Levy over a barrel and then
      conducting his contract talks in the media.
      This I am convinced was the final straw, and
      made his stay untenable.
      But in a Nutshell if Harry had signed the
      contract offered to him by Levy a couple of
      months ago, he would still be Spurs manager
      end of. "

      100% agree.

      venessalee, u will have to learn that john ignores posts like these because he has no argument for it.
      so he pretends it never happened.

      or he will be silly & say something like doing buisness through the media is the correct way to do things.
      even thou he doesnt belive that. he has to pretend to so that he can still defend harry going to the press for a longer contract.

    • John


      we can opine ad-infinitum on the pros and cons
      of Harrys tenure. But from reading your
      earlier/current posts regarding Harry. I think we will have to agree to differ.
      To me undoubtedly his biggest mistake was
      thinking he had Levy over a barrel and then
      conducting his contract talks in the media.
      This I am convinced was the final straw, and
      made his stay untenable.
      But in a Nutshell if Harry had signed the
      contract offered to him by Levy a couple of
      months ago, he would still be Spurs manager
      end of.

    • Venessa,
      But what are the 'faux pas'?
      So far, all I've heard is
      1) That he didn't play 'offensive' enough at Villa
      2) That we gave up a 10 point lead
      3) That 'arry has no tactical nous
      4) That 'arry touted for the England job
      5) Used an agent to negotiate his contract

      Is that it? That is enough to sack a manager who has got 4th twice (and a 5th) in 4 season?

      I've tried to argue against each of those points. But I'm amazed anyway that people think they're enough to have wanted to get rid of him.
      However, as I don't know why Levy et al got rid of him, I'm not even convinced that list is in itself the reason why he went.

      As for strong arm tactics - can you explain? Or are you saying that any player/manager that uses an agent is using string arm tactics?

    • It cannot be as simple as you describe, even Levy is not so thick as to appreciate the effect it could have on the club, not least the fact that a number of players will probably seek a way out of the club. On reflection, and as much as I appreciate how Harry turned the fortunes around, there were a number of factors that suggested he was losing the plot. The signings of Saha and Nelson were illogical and wasteful, and his switching of tactics at a critical phase of the season was misjudged. He took his eye off the ball and we endured a period of ineffective rubbish to be quite frank, all of this going on whilst Harry had his head in the clouds absorbing the adulation of the media and selecting his first England team. There are factors that we will never be privileged to know about, it cannot be as simple or as stupid as just booting him out for the sake of it. Can it?

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      • Ray,
        What was the change in tactics in a critical part of the season?
        I thought the others here were arguing the opposite. I thought 'arry played with 1 striker and VdV behind. The argument has been here (I think), that that wasn't attacking enough against Villa and that Daffy (presumably, or Gio) should have come on for VdV. Presumably changing the structure to 4-4-2.

        'arry did try the 4-4-2 against Norwich and true it failed then.

      • Raymond,
        I don't think Saha and Nielsen were wasteful - if you look at how 'arry worked, he used a sticking plaster approach. If there was a problem, 'arry fixed it. He didn't seem to plan 'future'.
        IMHO, I think that is more likely a reason why he had a problem with Levy et al. In the past we seemed to buy young(er) and look to develop players to sell on. That changed a bit, and we stopped selling. But still the 'ethos' appeared to be 'young'.
        'arry changed that (and it's difficult to know whether that was due to not having funds at the right time, not finding the right fit players, or simply failure in the transfer market) and seemed to buy to 'fix'. Bassong, Gallas, Nielsen, Saha were in my mind examples of that. Even Parker, who has turned into a good signing, is/was limited life.
        So, to me, even though some of the purchases worked, I could see that it may have gone against the grain with the board.
        What confuses me though, is that I would guess that the final say on any purchase is still with the board. So I'd be gobsmacked if they initially rubber stamped the purchases, and then later used them as a reason to sack him.

    • "that saved the club from relegation in his first year"

      do u honestly believe there was a good chance of us going down that year?

    • Without inside knowledge, it's hard to say why Levy et al (as presumably the board and Lewis had input) decided 'arry had to go. People here have said why they would have sacked him.

      We've seen some strange appointments and sackings across the EPL - most look odd from the outside. But 'public' appearance tends to hide any friction that may be happening behind the scenes.

      The motive will probably never be known, until biographies / autobiographies surface.

      I just hope the board's next appointment keeps up the momentum that we appear to have gained over the past few seasons. It's easy to make a rick as we've seen with AVB (and a whole raft of managers) at the Chavs, and lately with 'kin Kenny at Pool (although I don't like Dalglish, I wasn't sure that his squad was good enough to do much better than they did anyway - they played very well at times, and at times looked appalling). Then a manager like Pardew, looks initially an odd / unpopular appointment at Newcastle and turns out to be a gem

      Whoever Spurs do appoint though, the man has got to be given time to show what he can do, so you're looking two or three seasons away to be able to really judge anyway.