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  • Sfer Sfer Jun 26, 2012 16:06 Flag

    Hello Gylfi Sigurdsson = bye bye Modric?

    These two are far too similar in style to play in the same side aren't they? If the rumours are true, and we have beaten Pool to his signature, does that mean we have resigned ourselves to losing Modric?

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    • Seems that the man has signed.
      Hopefully that doesn't mean anymore than we have an additional midfielder.

    • SB,
      How is that being black and white SB as aren't those comments that you have said and in some cases keep insisting on?
      It seems that whenever I quote what you say , I'm being black and white. When I then point out I'm not black and white, you tend to then agree with that (ie that I'm not black and white) and imply that I'm too grey.

    • "A manager who's lost the plot and doesn't want CL football or to finish higher than CL qualification... If that's your ideal candidate, it shouldn't be hard finding a replacement for 'arry."

      lets end this thread at that! if u dont think u are being black & white then that shows u are deluded. u cant be any less grey when u say stuff like that!

      if u cant see how silly u are being with your argument above then i give up!

    • Sfer,
      Sorry must be how my browser lays out the threads.
      I thought the conversation went something like:

      SB posts on 26th @6:31pm....some comments about Modric that goes onto include the quoted comment below.

      I reply quoting SB on 27th @ 7:20
      -------------------------Me to SB
      '...sad to see him go but he deserves to be at a team thats at least in the CL. not 1 who settles for less....'

      I take it that is another little dig? ;-). I'm quite happy to go on replying to this sort of stuff.
      No, we didn't 'settle' for less. If you think 'arry purposely didn't try to get as high as possible, then that's up to you - but please recall you were also the one having a go at him when he was talking the team up for a title push. Odd for a manager who 'settles for less' don't you think.


      Sent with a smile from my raspberry ;-).
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      IE I'm talking about SB's allusion to a team that settles for less than CL. I say how does that equate with what 'arry had already said re pressing for the title

      You then post on the 27th @ 10:02:-

      ---------Sfer to SB and Specific comment to me
      As far as I can tell he is a good playmaker to go along with that good long shot you mention SB. However he is not that quick and not great in the air but if he is given time and plays in the right position (at the head of MF) he could be great for us.

      John - just beacuase Arry said something does not mean he meant it - ask the Pompey and Saints fans!
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      So I read that you're saying to me that 'arry doesn't mean all he says - I assume that is in my response to SB re 'arry's comments about pressing for the title. So I then ask you (27th @10:25) what motive 'arry has in not meaning what he says in this instance:

      ----------- Me to you -----------------------------------
      '...John - just beacuase Arry said something does not mean he meant it - ask the Pompey and Saints fans! ...'

      Really? So you think 'arry purposely wanted 4th or less, so that Levy could sack him? You're not seriously saying that 'arry didn't try to get CL football are you? If that's the case, why encourage the team pre Christmas. Why not sabotage them then?
      Can I ask two things - what would have been the benefit to 'arry to NOT have achieved CL football?
      What would have been the benefit to 'arry to HAVE achieved CL football?

      Give me the motive Sfer.....
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      I'm not sure how else I could have taken the above exchange.

      If that isn't the order of the conversation or I've misquoted anyone in a misleading way, then I sincerely apologise.

    • Apart from the fact that SB was commenting about Modric and not Arry when she said "..sad to see him go etc" your rant I replied to was;

      ...John - just beacuase Arry said something does not mean he meant it - ask the Pompey and Saints fans! ...'

      Really? So you think 'arry purposely wanted 4th or less, so that Levy could sack him? You're not seriously saying that 'arry didn't try to get CL football are you? If that's the case, why encourage the team pre Christmas. Why not sabotage them then?
      Can I ask two things - what would have been the benefit to 'arry to NOT have achieved CL football?
      What would have been the benefit to 'arry to HAVE achieved CL football?

      Give me the motive Sfer.....

      As I have already said - you are confused. Please re-read my last post. I don't have to give you a motive as I never implied what you have said above. You misinterpreted what I was saying.

    • & yes, harry did settle for 4th & he did settle for 1pt against villa.
      he said so himself!

      yes theres more to it then that, but we would be here all day if we look deeply in to minor details which pale incomparision to the main details & factors.
      iam grey with the main factors & details.
      whereas u are grey with the minor factors & details.
      when u are wrong u then start being grey & throwing in minor details to cloud the argument u are losing.

      u can cloud it as much as u want but at the end of the day-

      whatever minor detail u can come up with, it doesnt change the fact harry settled for 1pt & he settled for 4th.
      he even said so himself. & when it backfired, he still said he would go back & settle for the same things!

      but earlier in the season he said we we're title contenders!

      u say reach for the stars, then u say dont risk losing 1pt for the sake of 3!

      theres no getting away with it

      your a joke, yet i make u smile!

    • john, i can waste more time explaining things u have picked me up on. but u still wouldnt understand it when u are in this deluded state.

      i especially love the way u ignore the part about harrys & yours 360 on what your aspirations should be!

      never did answer that did u!

    • Joe,
      You've now confused what you perceive to be 'arry's mistakes with not trying.
      I can try 100% - even 120%(!) and still fail because I make mistakes.
      So, results aren't the same as not trying, nor are mistakes the same as not trying.

      As for:
      '...I could go on and on regarding Harry's short comings, but he is no longer our manager and I feel we should move on. There is nothing that can be achieved by rehashing these debates ad infinitum....'

      No problem with me. I won't reply or start a thread to rehash this at all. BUT I will reply should someone else bring up the subject. ;-)

    • '...he has also recentley made quite a few mistakes.

      i would have given him another year because of the previous work he has done. yes u can pick holes in my reasoning but i think lots of good work deserves to buy u some time....'

      Love it. I think the phrase you used was that that he'd lost the plot.
      I think you also did keep repeating that he'd settle for 4th..

      A manager who's lost the plot and doesn't want CL football or to finish higher than CL qualification... If that's your ideal candidate, it shouldn't be hard finding a replacement for 'arry.

      So I'm still lost at this. I think your '....you're black and white...' and ' ....life is more complex...' is just a convenient way for you to say what you like, and then say '...but it's complex...I didn't really mean it that way...


      '...i think harry cost us big time last season. he messed up badly with previously mentioned decisions. we will lose modric & a lot of money because of it.
      this is good enough reason to sack harry on its own....'

      Was that also the case when Modric wanted to go last season? Maybe, just maybe in your 'grey' view you may concede that Modric may just have wanted to leave for a couple of seasons - and now sees the perfect excuse? Life's complex you know.

      This get worse:
      '...im a soft touch, i would give him 1 more year to learn from his mistakes as a reward for previous good work he has done.
      i think more because i want to see him do well & it work out between the club & him.

      but do i think harry will learn from his mistakes & take us foward?
      NO! he has become more stubborn in his mistakes...'

      So now he's lost the plot, doesn't want CL football and can't learn from his mistakes (I don't recall him trying 4-4-2 after Norwich though do you?) - and still you want him as a manager - because you're such a soft touch - can I also add that you think he hasn't got any tactical sense to that list (I think you've said that before).
      Can I ask then, what are his redeeming features - no on second thoughts don't answer that.

      Can't you see why I quote Julius Caesar at you. I'd hate to see how you would treat a manager you don't like.

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