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  • A Yahoo! User Jun 27, 2012 19:15 Flag

    john,the 1st step is admitting u have a problem

    john, u are avoiding this!

    we are 3rd-harry says we can win the title.
    3rd is within grasp- harry says he will settle for 4th & hope others do us a favour.
    a win against villa is within grasp- harry says he will always settle for a pt with 10men.

    we are 3rd yet harry says we can challenge for the title.
    we are 4th-harry says we should settle for that & hope others do us a favour.
    we are drawing at villa with 10men-harry says we should setlle for a pt.

    why do i even bother. u will never admit harrys contradictions & mistakes.

    i think i know why!

    harry says we can win the title-
    at the same time john says reach for the stars & aim for the top blah blah blah.

    harry says settle for a pt at villa & hope others do us a favour-
    john says a pt is a good pt & u shouldnt risk going for the 3pts as u could lose the 1pt u got.

    harry says he settled for 4th as usually that gets u CL football.
    john says at the begining of the season 4th was our aim, so we should stick with that.

    john has become more & more deluded!

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    • Trouble is, Mr Morgan---since Harry's gone they've got nowt to talk about.
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    • What a sad bunch you lot are.

    • SB, your constant character assassination of John is getting boring to say the least.
      EVERYONE is entitled to their opinion and they're also entitled to contradict themselves (whether you did or not John), change their mind - whatever, including you.
      But for crying out loud give it a rest.

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      • I agree.

        I have had my run ins with SB and eventually stopped trying to change the way she posted certain thoughts.

        I have also tried to get John to accept that he is not always right - as we all are not - but I have given up there as well.

        When SB meets John there is an impasse that cannot be resolved so lets move on and get back to discussing Spurs and football matters and let everybody accept that we are not all going to agree all of the time.

        After all - its only a game!!

    • SB,
      You posted this on the Modric thread - so I thought I'd keep it in one neat place and reply here. You said:
      'john, i can waste more time explaining things u have picked me up on. but u still wouldnt understand it when u are in this deluded state.

      i especially love the way u ignore the part about harrys & yours 360 on what your aspirations should be!

      never did answer that did u!
      ...'

      Yes I have answered that on numerous occasions.

      I haven't seen where 'arry didn't try to win the CL spot. I haven't seen when 'arry didn't attempt the CL when we were in it.
      I don't recall having seen, any comment from 'arry where he says he isn't trying to get CL football or even the title (when that was possible). If you know of such comments, post me the link in context. Don't do a Sun headline on me and quote '....'Arry Says He'll Settle For A Point.....' bit, without quoting the whole thing.

      If you're actually talking about 1 game in 38, which I think is all you seem to focus on, then I have also addressed that.
      We dominated Villa. We had something like 19 corners and 20 shots. If that is a team that isn't trying to win, then please show me the stats of a team that is. I think you confuse trying to win with the result. IE - I don't think Chelsea 'tried' to beat Barca - but they did - weird of me eh? I think we tried to beat Villa - we just didn't - that happens in football (oops, sorry, do I have to be black and white here or is grey ok) - weird of me again to think that way eh?
      Personally, I think your issue is that you think Daffy is great and you were simply peeved that 'arry didn't use him. But 'arry not using Daffy isn't in any way shape or form not trying to win.

      You also said on the Modric thread:
      'yes theres more to it then that, but we would be here all day if we look deeply in to minor details which pale incomparision to the main details & factors.
      iam grey with the main factors & details.
      whereas u are grey with the minor factors & details.
      when u are wrong u then start being grey & throwing in minor details to cloud the argument u are losing.

      u can cloud it as much as u want but at the end of the day-

      whatever minor detail u can come up with, it doesnt change the fact harry settled for 1pt & he settled for 4th.
      he even said so himself. & when it backfired, he still said he would go back & settle for the same things!....'

      Minor detail - to me a minor detail is a substitution in the 89th minute of a game. A major detail(s) in that game is the amount of possession we had, where we had it, the corners we won and shots we had.
      Focusing on one game and ignoring the other 37 -isn't that then looking at a minor detail and ignoring the major part. We did finish 4th - is that a major or minor detail?

      '...whatever minor detail u can come up with, it doesnt change the fact harry settled for 1pt & he settled for 4th.
      he even said so himself. & when it backfired, he still said he would go back & settle for the same things!...'

      I have addressed that - again if there's another quote or comment from 'arry that you're referring to post the link, and I'll then address that comment based on the context in which it was made.

      Anything else you feel I've missed? If there is, maybe we can get away from the '....you keep ducking this....' type comment.

      Yours smilingly,
      Mr myopic, weird, delusional, stupid, black and white (but sometimes too grey),....etc

    • SB,
      ....If there's anything else you think I've missed, let me know and I'll happily respond....

    • SB,
      '.......we are 3rd-harry says we can win the title.
      3rd is within grasp- harry says he will settle for 4th & hope others do us a favour.
      a win against villa is within grasp- harry says he will always settle for a pt with 10men......'

      I think I've addressed this umpteen times. But I'll do it again if you want.
      When 'arry said we could win the title, we were on a run of form that was the best in the league (I think from recollection) - at the 'half way mark' we already had 39 points. So as I said at the time and will repeat again, when 'arry said that we could win the title, I agreed with his comment, as with that form, that was possible.

      '....we are 3rd yet harry says we can challenge for the title.
      we are 4th-harry says we should settle for that & hope others do us a favour.
      we are drawing at villa with 10men-harry says we should setlle for a pt.....'

      Rlease just replay this - 'arry's comments after Villa.
      http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/17885326

      ...and now don't take comments out of context. He says thoughout the interview if he thought we could win. He says that obviously winning would have set us clear, and that he thought there was only one winner.
      If you want me to comment on on 'arry's comments that he may have made elsewhere - give me the link or the transcript - BUT please don't just take a 'one liner' 'soundbite' and quote it out of context. Surely they still teach that at school - that when you precis, you have to capture the essence of what's said, and not give a false impression?

      I've already given you the transcript after the Norwich games as well, where 'arry basically says the same thing.

      '...harry says settle for a pt at villa & hope others do us a favour-
      john says a pt is a good pt & u shouldn't risk going for the 3pts as u could lose the 1pt u got....'

      The first phrase. No - as I said above - quote all of what 'arry said in context. As for my 'quote'. Again, I suggest you go back and quote what I said in context SB, as I think you're doing what's known as 'selective editing'.