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  • Jlock Jlock Nov 12, 2012 16:48 Flag

    The Lane Tour

    Different styles.
    It's like Star Wars. AVB is learning to be a Jedi - but he is going by the book, he knows all the technical data about his light sabre, the feet movements required. But he hasn't yet learned to bolt it all together as a whole. He wants his players to play by the book so they can be interchanged - each knowing what the 'role' entails.
    'arry on the other hand was intuitive. He knew the game. 'Understood' the game. He trusted his players to know the game. He 'felt the force' and expected his players to do the same.

    I was going to then make the link between AVB and the Dark Side, but I thought that took the analogy too far......;-)!

    It's a bit like knowing what music is, what notes the keys on a piano represent, but not having the flair to play the piano like a maestro.

    I'm not saying 'arry was a master there - just that to me, that is the difference between 'arry and AVB. Intuition vs technician.

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    • i get what your saying john but if this is the case with AVB then why was he employed?

      Surely if you was in Levy's shoes you would want the best man for the job? the right candidate to take the club forward?

      Think about it you had just got rid of fan favourite Arry who gave your side its best finishes in the prem ever got you into the champions league for the first time.

      Then you axe him and bring in AVB that didnt achieve anything with a club that had more money then your club and better players and then he gets sacked.

      Arry on the other hand had nothing anywhere near the kind of money to spend that AVB did but Arry's results are better than AVB's Arry didnt have all the fancy screens or white boards he got the job done with a whisper in there shell like and a pot of jellied ells lol.

      Seems strange that a man like AVB who pays so much attention to detail in the technical area of the game but still gets it wrong time after time he is supposed to be a master tatician but refuses to budge from the lone striker system that clearly does not work.

      Kinda like getting rid of Yoda and bringing in a Ewok IMOH to use your Star Wars Analagy John.

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      • I would go back to why I think 'arry went:

        1) Levy thought that England would take 'arry and was hopeful for the compensation package. I think Levy really believed the England media hype - maybe more than 'arry. Irrespective he couldn't wait to see if 'arry would go, so put out feelers.
        2) 'arry is 'arry - I don't think he would fit well in a 'Director of Football club' where Levy/Director had more and more say over players in/out.
        3) Because of 2 and because of what I said in the earlier post, 'arry buys to fix issues. He sees a problem and fixes it - Gallas, Nelsen, Friedel, Parker, Saha - all came in and did a bloody good job when needed. But 'arry isn't in my mind a 'buy to sell' manager - so doesn't fit a buy young sell at a profit.
        4) Overall my gut feeling is that 'arry new his mind too much for Levy. AVB, seems to me to be more 'amenable' to Levy dictating the playing staff.

        Why then AVB? That did surprise me, mainly as the timing was odd. As I said above, I think Levy (and any chairman) given the apparent/alleged England interest in the manager, had to look for a replacement before it was known if 'arry had got the job or not. I think the ball was already in motion and the borad had in their mind that 'arry had to go. If the AVB/Burnley story is true, then AVB seems to talk the 'technical talk'. Maybe, with AVB's love of the technical, and 'arrys 'old fashioned' methods, AVB looked the man - especially his close links to Mourinho and that whole school of coaching. His Porto record, as pointed out right at the beginning of the season, could just have been the right man in the right place at the right time. BUT, he still had that 'aura' of the up and coming young super coach irrespective. No one knew from his record whether he was a flash in the pan or the real deal. So what did Levy have to lose? If he had already made up his mind to get rid of 'arry, then AVB could have been the answer to his prayers. It's only after a few games that we're questioning it now - and maybe that is still tooooo early given the squad changes and injuries. He may still prove to be the next Obi Wan, or as you say he may be an Ewok. Who out there wouldn't have been a risk anyway? 'Arry was a risk - and I thought he would crash and burn. Moyes, who seems a favourite here, would still have been a gamble. Old Red Nose was a gamble for Utd, Wenger for Woolwich - only hindsight shows if a manager was 'right' or not.

        I think AVB could be more a Luke Skywalker, before he has learnt to 'feel the force', rather than an Ewok. Will he ever 'feel the force' though? That was Levy's gamble. If he does he will be Levy's Sith apprentice.