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  • John John May 17, 2013 08:41 Flag

    Wenger staying (probably longer than 2014) - good or bad?

    Civility deserves civility.

    "I think you're only looking at the football side only and not the whole picture. "

    Of course I'm only looking at the football side. Nobody doubts the financial success the club has enjoyed these last eight years. The ONLY doubt is if we will EVER win anything ever again!

    Wenger is a great manager, but over the years, he has seen a variety of staff leave, but they have not been replaced. Key among these was David Dein. Since his departure Wenger has lost many great players a bit too early, and a few very good players (On a free). He has also failed to land a few key signings because he has either left it too late, or has refused to give to into a couple of extra quid a week. (rumoured)

    Then you have players like Arshavin, who we cannot sell because we paid him too much. So we are paying his wages until his contract runs out. Dennilson, to whom we pay a large proportion of his wages, even though he basically will no longer play for us.

    Wenger holds onto too much control at the club. He oversees a lot, but then also gets involved in the minutiae. As for key players leaving.....well lets wait and see.

    What I have said is that i would like to see things change at the club, that will allow for it to move forward into a position to win silverware again. One man doing all the key things isn't working.

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    • It's very frustrating that we haven't been able to get *Arsenal haven't won a trophy in X number of years* monkey off our back, if we have done so, it would have eased a lot of tension in the club. And to be honest, we have been very close (in 2006, 2008 and 2011) to ending the trophy drought but it wasn't to be. I think a lot of people forget that. The financial commitments of the club due to the stadium move have made things difficult for the manager in terms of competing for the right players in the transfer market in recent years and I think that is why we have ended up with the likes of Park Chu-Young, Chamakh, Santos, etc, in the squad. It isn't entirely Wenger's fault that we have ended up with so much deadwood in the squad but the strategy the club pursued is partially responsible for it. I think people need to realise that we can't compete with the likes of Chelsea, PSG and City in the market and the Agueros, Lucas Mouras and Hazards of this world all come at a premium. Sadly these are the sort of players we need to seriously challenge, if we can't compete with our rivals in the market for the right types of players, the other option is patience and wait for the team to gel. It takes time.

      I'm in total agreement that Wenger needs to delegate some of his duties, especially on new signings negotiation.

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      • " BUT, Utd have won consistently over the last eight years, without spending the same money as City, Chelsea or PSG. They bring in one or two big names each year and sell off all the deadwood."

        I think the main difference between Man U and us is they have been lucky to have a stable squad and Arsenal don't.

      • "I think people need to realise that we can't compete with the likes of Chelsea, PSG and City in the market and the Agueros, Lucas Mouras and Hazards of this world all come at a premium."

        I agree that if we had won something, even a poxy League Cup, the pressure would be reduced. BUT, Utd have won consistently over the last eight years, without spending the same money as City, Chelsea or PSG. They bring in one or two big names each year and sell off all the deadwood.

        We have been doing the opposite. There has to be a balance between the two. That's what this club needs to find and fast.