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  • hornyb66 hornyb66 Oct 5, 2007 13:08 Flag

    New twist in spy saga.

    Now it seems that Ferrari had mclaren info just the same as mclaren had of Ferrari. So now the FIA should dock ferrari construction points dont you think. The info has come from Stepney himself and i have enclosed his statement for you all to see.----

    But Stepney, who was Ferrari's technical manager before his dismissal in July and who is currently the subject of criminal proceedings in Italy over the affair, has now gone public in saying that Ferrari have done exactly the same.

    "I got information on them [McLaren]. Ferrari got off lightly," Stepney told grandprix.com.

    "I got information about when they [McLaren] were [pit] stopping. I got weight distribution, I got other aspects of various parts of their car and I was Ferrari's employee at the time."

    Stepney believes that Ferrari, who inherited the constructors' title following McLaren's disqualification, should be penalised themselves, even though he admitted that he cannot back up his claims.

    "I was aware of certain stuff they [McLaren] were doing at tests, fuel levels for example. I think Ferrari should have been docked points personally," he added.

    "The question is: did I use the information, did I talk about it? I spoke to some people [at Ferrari] about it. I can't prove it, there are no e-mails or anything, points about the fuel and the differences between the teams were discussed inside.

    "But as well as McLaren having an advantage, did Ferrari have an advantage? I think so.

    "It looks like information was flowing only one way. No one has been balancing the argument, no one has asked the question."

    Now lets see if the FIA do anything to Ferrari but i bet you anything that nothing happens cause Max wont want to upset his mate Jean Todt now would he.
    As the old saying goes "ONE RULE FOR ONE AND ONE RULE FOR ANOTHER"

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    • Absolutely!

      "Exploded" kind of an understatement don't you think? I went nuts, straightjacket and all! It's amazing that they still allowed me access to a computer! :-)

      Really though, once everything gets ironed out and we can stick to F1........
      One can only hope.

      Have a good day solentrib!

    • You know what Hans I think this season just got to all of us at some point. I was part of the thread when you "exploded" and the whole thing was just going mad. I look back on some of the thing I posted and think, Jesus I must have been made at something.

      Anyway glad the seasons over, almost.

      Keep well and lets look forward to an F1 forum thats more about the sport than the politics!

      Some hope huh!

    • Hey Dan,

      This is the first I've read of this post (I don't know why this is the first I've seen of it) but I hope you know how I feel. Things were said by me that shouldn't have been and I've regretted it and I'm going to say it again; I'm sorry. Thank you for what you've said here. It's over and I'm glad that we can "talk" using this forum. I hope you get the opportunity to read this.

      Have yourself a great day!

    • Hey Dan,

      This is the first I've read of this post (I don't know why this is the first I've seen of it) but I hope you know how I feel. Things were said by me that shouldn't have been and I've regretted it. Thank you for what you've said here. It's over and I'm glad that we can "talk" using this forum. I hope you get the opportunity to read this.

      Have yourself a great day!

    • ok so i do have to admit i was being a nasty bitch when i wrote that and i do have to agree with you guys that if someone else had written it i would get on there case too all i can put it down to was ' having a bad day' so please for give me xxxxxx i also have to agree that as a british person i do get defensive and gob of when people slat us what else can i say but sorry

    • Stepney is a bitter and twisted individual - of course ferrari have the info - just like all the other teams probably have dossiers on other cars from things they have picked up through the season.

      he ought to keep his mouth shut and just be thankfull that the italian legal system hasn't caught up with him for industrial espionage or something.

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      • I think it has. It`s just taking it`s usual protracted time to get its` act together.
        I have to say that I am hating this season. It`s become little more than an excuse for the media to try to make jingoistic idiots of all F1 fans. Am I the only person who is sick of the "anti xxxx because they`re foreign" attitude. How many of the teams have personnel only from one country? Personally, I don`t want the flag-waving lager lout attitude in the sport I love.

    • I don't think it's racial stereotyping at all. look at any reliability listing and you will be hard pushed to find many Italian cars up there. Same with the French as it happens. But the Italians do design beautiful cars.

      The Germans are not as reliable as they used to be but are better.

      Top of the tree on average, the Japanes. Styling a big problem here though.

      I don't know. If you can't say: " German cars are reliable, Italian cars are beautiful and Japanes cars are reliable but ugly" what can you say!!

      Good point about McLaren and Ferrari. Do you know what Andy I don't know. Not going to have that problem with this year are we!!

    • Hi Christopher W,

      Italian super cars have soul and probably so do some Alfas. But the rest of the Fiat output is not as imaginative and special as they used to be. Just my view.

      Mercedes I think got rid of the Chrysler link a while ago hence the change in name from Daimler Chrysler to just Daimler.

      I actually keep an Alfa v6 as a second car to have fun in. But I don't think i would ever trust it all the way to Le Mans and back. Bits would just fall off for no apparent reason. I know they would.lol

    • Hi Christopher W,

      Italian super cars have soul and probably so do some Alfas. But the rest of the Fiat output is not as imaginative and special as they used to be. Just my view.

      Mercedes I think got rid of the Chrysler link a while ago hence the change in name from Daimler Chrysler to just Daimler.

      I actually keep an Alfa v6 as a second car to have fun in. But I don't think i would ever trust it all the way to Le Mans and back. Bits would just fall off for no apparent reason. I know they would.lol

    • Too right, i feel like going into a world speach but i`ll save for the end of year formula 1 party lol. Well said hans,its just a shame more people on here arent the same as yourself it would be a better place.

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