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  • A Yahoo! User May 3, 2007 21:30 Flag

    Forget the CL what about the PREM

    Yes we're in another CL final, but i for one would swap a Euro title for a PREM chamionship in a heartbeat. Win or lose against Milan our history as a European giant is already signed, sealed and delivered. However our PREMIERSHIP form is an emabarrasment to the club and us the supporters. We have NEVER won the Prem and have not won a league title in nearly TWO DECADES! If anyone would've told me that twenty years ago i would've laughed my head off! I for one would gladly give up European glory to prove we are once again the best team in England. Anyone can win a cup knockout comp with luck on the day but over 38 games you cannot fake it. That is why the PREMIERSHIP is the only trophy worth winning and until we do Chelski, Arsenal and Manc fans will be all over us. The question is can we win it being so far behind the top two... under Rafa i say NO

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    • I see us doing much better than last season, and I've stuck my neck out to say we'll win the league.

      Rafa's signed the core of the team to longterm contracts, and they've have the summer off, which will help.

      Some players need to improve their game more than others, and Rafa needs to play his main players more often, with less rotation. I have no problem with changing one or two players for the next game (excluding injury-related enforced changes).

      You can throw out the last few games from last season, as we'd qualified for the CL and were focused on the Athens game. It might have been a 20 point difference by the end, but we would have been much closer if we'd had out first choice team playing those games.

      My one suggestion for Rafa would be to go for the throat of any team from the kick-off. Attack, attack, attack. A good start to the season will make all the difference!

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      • What colour is the sky in your world pal?

        You must be f**king retarded to think we can win the league next term. You are absolutely insane mate. We have made NO moves to make the team better so far this season while our so-called rivals Chelsea and Man U are making their sqauds much, much stronger already. Look at the standings and the stats from last season dsteer and stop being a deluded t**t like rafalution, lokihermes and "i'm scouse not british" wellboy who i already own here.

    • Our priority as always should be the EPL but to win the race we have to be there or there abouts all year.I can accept Rafa's rotation policy in the domestic cups,if he was up front with the fans like Wenger i would not complain.Its his rotation in the league that frustrates the hell out of me as a supporter.

      I just don't get it,the arguement that it keeps players fresh is not acceptable.Souness hit the nail on the head when asked how he coped playing 60+ games a year

      "i'd rather be knackered and win trophies than fresh and win nothing"

      If Rafa continues with rotation i can't see us winning the EPL..CL yes..

    • Why not? Think positive man!

    • Hang on, I've replied to this thread already months ago.... and I dared to agree with Shanks!

      Drawing the idiot's conclusion, I must not be a FAN! Despite the fact that at least half of LFC fans would actually AGREE with the sentiment expressed here!

      Enough already....

    • perhaps admit you where wrong and know very little, the prem. will come soon. probally like your boyfriend.

    • its easy to have desire for 13 matches????
      then how come for previous seasons when man utd have only won the carling did they not go on to lift the CL -- nobody has run Chelsea close for the last 2 years --- why can't some man utd fans give credit where it is due!! 2 finals in 3 years is a fantastic record!!

    • I've read a few of your posts Shanks and won't be bothered passing judgement on your true allegiances, as it doesn't matter.

      I agree with you on this one though. The CL is a nice, prestigious bit of silver to win, but it is NOT as hard to win as the premiership. For starters there are fewer games involved, and the whole 'away goals' thing introduces an element of luck that doesn't exist week in/week out in the EPL.

      To win the EPL, you have to turn up EVERY WEEK, and perform consistently, especially after you suffer a setback. The best at doing that over 9 months has every right to call themselves the best team in the country.

      The same cannot be said for the CL winner though. The Mancs were spouting themselves as the best team in Europe after there 7-1 against Roma, but Milan made them look like a bunch of kids last night. It changes from week to week! Sustained effort in the CL is very hard to guage. Deciding the BEST team in Europe is subjective, and in my view cannot truthfully be determined in a knockout competition like the CL. And I'll admit that as an LFC fan, whose main flagship has been that tournament.

      As far as Rafa is concerned, I think he deserves one more year. The most frustrating thing about him from my perspective was that you never sense he knows what his first choice 11 is. He's always meddling, even when his squad is fully fit. There is a surprise in the starting line up almost every game. Look at Chelsea and United - if you ignore injuries you can pretty much recite the best 11 their managers would put out there every time. With Rafa I sense that he fears predictability. But if you want to go on a good run in the prem, you need exactly that - and stability with the players. If they know where they stand with the manager and what's expected of them, they can perform to their best IMO.

      We DESPERATELY need the premiership, and no number of CL triumphs will be the same as knocking off the big 3 over a 9 month race.

    • I've read a few of your posts Shanks and won't be bothered passing judgement on your true allegiances, as it doesn't matter.

      I agree with you on this one though. The CL is a nice, prestigious bit of silver to win, but it is NOT as hard to win as the premiership. For starters there are fewer games involved, and the whole 'away goals' thing introduces an element of luck that doesn't exist week in/week out in the EPL.

      To win the EPL, you have to turn up EVERY WEEK, and perform consistently, especially after you suffer a setback. The best at doing that over 9 months has every right to call themselves the best team in the country.

      The same cannot be said for the CL winner though. The Mancs were spouting themselves as the best team in Europe after there 7-1 against Roma, but Milan made them look like a bunch of kids last night. It changes from week to week! Sustained effort in the CL is very hard to guage. Deciding the BEST team in Europe is subjective, and in my view cannot truthfully be determined in a knockout competition like the CL. And I'll admit that as an LFC fan, whose main flagship has been that tournament.

      As far as Rafa is concerned, I think he deserves one more year. The most frustrating thing about him from my perspective was that you never sense he knows what his first choice 11 is. He's always meddling, even when his squad is fully fit. There is a surprise in the starting line up almost every game. Look at Chelsea and United - if you ignore injuries you can pretty much recite the best 11 their managers would put out there every time. With Rafa I sense that he fears predictability. But if you want to go on a good run in the prem, you need exactly that - and stability with the players. If they know where they stand with the manager and what's expected of them, they can perform to their best IMO.

      We DESPERATELY need the premiership, and no number of CL triumphs will be the same as knocking off the big 3 over a 9 month race.

    • I agree with you to a point Paisley but Rafa has had rescources in the past but to be honest not the cash that Chelski,Manure and Arsenal could afford but now he has let's give him two years and if he fails I agree that Rafa shoould go, yea when it comes to Europe he is a master no matter what you say but has failed so far when it comes to Prem, give him 2 years and if no joy or at least finishing a very close second, then yes he should go.

    • I agree with you to a point Paisley but Rafa has had rescources in the past but to be honest not the cash that Chelski,Manure and Arsenal could afford but now he has let's give him two years and if he fails I agree that Rafa shoould go, yea when it comes to Europe he is a master no matter what you say but has failed so far when it comes to Prem, give him 2 years and if no joy or at least finishing a very close second, then yes he should go.

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