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  • jaminbenny jaminbenny Oct 30, 2007 23:09 Flag

    Why are some people calling for Rafa's head?

    I would not swap Rafa at all. All he's done so far in his little time here is build a quality squad and bring in trophies. He's done nothing to warrant being sacked. Sacking him would only set us back a couple of seasons at best. Unless of course we suddenly spend hundreds of millions on players but I don't think we're going to do that.

    One thing I would change however, are some of the fans. I believe it's these fickle fans who are heaping too much pressure on the team and causing us problems. These fans obviously have been blinded by Chelsea's bought success and want to copy it. They have no idea about football or business of life. In all these patience and strong relationships build success.

    One more thing, wait until we have a full strength squad back before being critical also!

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    • It's the media making a big fuss over nothing because they haven't got anything better to talk about. Every year it's a contest to see which manager they can get fired for bad publicity.

      Rafa is on the right path but he has to have more time to build a champion, given the relatively meager resources the club have given him.

      Even before buying Torres and Babel in the summer, he had to sell Bellamy, Cisse and other dead weight for a net spend of only 7 million pounds. That amount was approximately what he spent the previous summer.

      Compare that to what Ferguson spent at ManUtd for Hargreaves alone!

      Rafa is doing the best he can.

      IN RAFA WE TRUST

    • Looking at your question and statement, im gonna be honest here.

      Your quite right, he dosent deserve the sack. hes done very well for Liverpool FC.
      Hes won you trophies...............

      But ive gotta ask.......
      Does he deserve to Win the league....?
      How is he Buliding.........what will be different next season or the season after........hes´not gonna change his game plan and if he needed different players, why didnt he vbuy them, he apparentley had a n open cheque book.

      Does he deserve to win the EPL......THAT is what Liverpool fans want, isnt it?

      So far he hasnt shown the nounce nor the ability to put out a squad capable of winning the EPL.
      If thats ok, then keep him..........

      If its not ok, why should he stay, these are the REAL questions that need to be answered.
      I dont see Benitez changeing his style, why would he, he cant, he is what he is......and his teams do not play attractive football, the Liverpool way.

      If your happy with that , keep him.

      The effects of his self proclaimed rotation sytem have deminished alot of team spirit, probably built up on the tail end of last season, look how many players are disgruntled or lacking in confidence.

      Why would next season be any different to this, give them time for what??....more of the same
      The football is boring, hes virtually admitted to being clueless and dosent offer any explanation to the fans of why they are playing badly......just says he´s looking at the next game.

      If your happy with that, keep him, but his system and the players he has have more chance of mid table mediocracy than they ever have of toppling the others...........just look at the football they play...!!!

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      • Sean, think your asking the right questions. Although I'd term it "is he capable" rather than deserve.

        There is no doubt he has what it takes to win silverware. Some like to discount it as flukes, or on the backs of great individual players, but he's been consistent in Spain, and now here. You could argue 05 was not his team so he got lucky, but getting back to the final in 07, and the FA cup were his achievements with his squad. The question is can he translate that into a run for the title, which requires consistent performance.

        I'll be honest I really don't know the answer. I can understand the many who've questioned Rafa's ability, and have sympathy with many of their arguments. But its just for me too early to decide. Xmas would be the earliest for me, but more likely need until end of Jan or into Feb, which is when I think champions are made.

        I never expected a title this year, but of course hoping for it. But I am expecting to know if Rafa is capable of achieving that goal by the end of this season. If he can stay in the hunt until late in the season, then I think he will and should be around next season. With a couple more additions, and the experience the new players this year will have gained over the season, then I'll set the bar that little bit higher on first place. But if he cannot prove he's got what it takes to challenge this year, then it will be time to look around for other options.

      • Sean, think your asking the right questions. Although I'd term it "is he capable" rather than deserve.

        There is no doubt he has what it takes to win silverware. Some like to discount it as flukes, or on the backs of great individual players, but he's been consistent in Spain, and now here. You could argue 05 was not his team so he got lucky, but getting back to the final in 07, and the FA cup were his achievements with his squad. The question is can he translate that into a run for the title, which requires consistent performance.

        I'll be honest I really don't know the answer. I can understand the many who've questioned Rafa's ability, and have sympathy with many of their arguments. But its just for me too early to decide. Xmas would be the earliest for me, but more likely need until end of Jan or into Feb, which is when I think champions are made.

        I never expected a title this year, but of course hoping for it. But I am expecting to know if Rafa is capable of achieving that goal by the end of this season. If he can stay in the hunt until late in the season, then I think he will and should be around next season. With a couple more additions, and the experience the new players this year will have gained over the season, then I'll set the bar that little bit higher on first place. But if he cannot prove he's got what it takes to challenge this year, then it will be time to look around for other options.

    • Because he rotates when he does'nt need to,example:
      Does'nt play Torres against Birmingham or Pompy till it's to late but plays him in the Carling cup against Reading.
      Constant rotation confusing players because they don't know who they are playing alongside next.
      Man mangement skills piss poor as confidence is well down and he can't pick it up,telling you that Paco was a huge influence on the staff and players.
      His tatics against marsille and baksitas(spelt wrong) where piss poor considering he is a Master Tactican.
      No excuses saying injuries, we have one of the biggest squads in the prem if not the biggest so there is no shortage of players.
      Buying players like Lucas 5 million and Babel 11.6 million who he hardly plays.
      Face it Rafa is losing it and will never bring us the prem.
      fantastic manager in european games(except for this season) but can't figure out how to achieve in the prem.

    • Agree with you 100%. I understand some fans feeling a little uneasy right now with our current form, and I have no problem with that. I also understand and respect those who've had longstanding issues with some of Rafa's methods. Don't always agree, but understand the position. But, its way to early to make a true judgment, and anyone who does, I think rightly needs to be pointed out as having a kneejerk position.