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  • lfcmob lfcmob Apr 24, 2008 19:54 Flag

    2 Tier Premiership?

    It is being suggested on Sky that a 2 tier EPL is being muted this would consist based on today’s table of :

    TIER 1:
    Man U, Chelsea, Arsenal, Liverpool, Everton, Villa, Portsmouth, Blackburn, Man City, West Ham and Spurs.

    TIER2:
    Newcastle, Boro, Wigan, Sunderland, Bolton, Reading, Birmingham, Fulham Derby, Celtic and Rangers.

    Celtic and Rangers would join in Tier 2 and then try to gain promotion this is to reduce objections from lower division clubs.
    There will be two up two down from Tier 1 – Tier 2 and two up two down from Tier 2 to the Championship.

    Could be interesting and makes more sense than playing games abroad, what do you guys think?

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    • Why would we want Scottish teams in the English league? I don't understand why they let 3 welsh teams play in the english leagues.

    • Sounds like the scottish premiership and sure we all know thats crap ! What next split the top two into 5. Nah Man United dropped points at Bolton / Reading / Middlesborough and were lucky against a few other so called Tier 2 teams so the games can be competetive between top and bottom. Lets keep it the way it is. If it aint broken then dont fix it !

    • I agree, Cardiff and Swansea have been under the English FA for a long time, but to allow other clubs in from other countries, would require a complete change in the rules.

      If that were to happen, you might as well start with a clean sheet and start again. Maybe a British Premier league (which yes might lead to a British national team), with a second tier of conferences (maybe a northern and southern conference) by region to account for teams in the respective current 2nd divisions, or those not good enough to make the new prem from England, Scotland, Wales, and Northern Ireland.

      Not sure if I like the idea, but its either keep the rules as they are to keep the integrity of the current leagues, or start all over. To mess around at the edges of the current system just to make extra money, or allow the bigger clubs to get bigger is the worst of both worlds.

    • It is supposed to be the English Premier League. I completely oppose the idea of the Glasgow teams joining the EPL. I know we have Cardiff and Swansea, but Welsh football is a bit different to Scottish football. It would not be fair to allow Celtic and Rangers to join at such a high level, and it would not be fair to Hearts, Hibs, Aberdeen, Dundee United, etc. The whole idea is ludicrous (although if it makes money, Scudamore will go for anything...)

    • Even as a supporter of a big club, really don't like the idea of the super league. I think we can give an exception to Cardiff (and Swansea for that matter) because they've played under the English FA for so long. But to start changing the rules to allow super clubs like Celtic or Rangers in just goes to far. If they can join, then so can Real Madrid, or AC Milan. Or for that matter Hicks moves Liverpool to Dallas, while Roman takes Chelsea to Moscow. Whole thing is crazy IMO.

    • Trying to figure out the benefits here. Other than a couple less games, and bringing in the 2 dominant teams from Scotland, its hard to see much else. The bottom tier is going to lose for sure. Gate revenues down from not playing the big boys, but also, do they have a seperate TV contract? Again the top get richer the bottom loose out. In effect you've just created a smaller EPL, and one more division overall.

      Instead, if they want to reduce the size of th EPL and bring in new teams, why not cut down from 20 to 18 or 16 teams in the EPL, which is something UEFA has been asking for anyway. While it might be exciting to see Celtic and Rangers play in the EPL, I think they need to start at least at the Championship level (maybe lower to be fair) and then progress. Otherwise it makes a mockery of the system. There are still lower division teams working hard, with limited resources to get into the Prem, so why should they jump ahead. If Bristol City can go from League One to prem in 3 seasons (maybe), then the Scots need to go the same route.

    • I don't like the idea either.

      It can only hurt the Tier 2 clubs in their efforts to generate revenue for themselves. No fixtures against any of the Tier 1 clubs won't exactly give their fans as much to look forward to, will it?

      As it stands, you have a balanced season with 38 games, each team playing 19 others home and away. The below with 10 teams in each tier might see 38 being cut to 36, with each team playing the other 9 in their tier four times instead of two in a season. Again, I don't think that would hold the same appeal for many as just having the two league fixtures a year against each team.

      I do like the idea of Rangers and Celtic getting a look in to the EPL though. They are so ridiculously dominant up in Scotland, it must get so boring for them and for their fans. It's not dissimilar to the problems the Australian national team had with their WC qualification path. They were such a dominant team in their confederation that they asked FIFA for permission to join the Asian qualifying group instead. It was granted.

      I'm not a fan of the two tier set up myself. It's always nice seeing the lower teams get one over those in the top half - their fans love it too. Why take that opportunity away?

    • Will it play like the Scots prem league (i.e. 2 home and 2 away matches against each team coz that would mean playing 40 games a season not 38....a way to sneek in extra games I think)?

      I don't like it, I think theres less drastic changes that could take place to improve the league. This seems more like another ill-thought-out knee jerk change for change sake.

    • Will it play like the Scots prem league (i.e. 2 home and 2 away matches against each team coz that would mean playing 40 games a season not 38....a way to sneek in extra games I think)?

      I don't like it, I think theres less drastic changes that could take place to improve the league. This seems more like another ill-thought-out knee jerk change for change sake.