Yes, and that´s my point Hob. We have the class but they are playing truant at the moment and the question has to be "why?" That is why I tend to think the playing staff are average or above and yet, as a team, they look clueless and have done all season. Boring, defensive crowded midfield, long balls, no penetration in attack and, generally, a demotivated look about them. Torres in particular, he´s like a zombie! That has to be down to the manager in my book. Agree your points about Tottenham by the way.