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  • Havin_A_Red_Day_? Havin_A_Red_Day_? Jan 15, 2012 17:20 Flag

    Another worrisome issue..

    Hard to disagree with you there on any of that Jason....

    Cannot believe Kenny turned down the oppurtunity to swap Bent with Carroll, that to me is and was a no brainer.....

    Bent is one of the better proven strikers in the premiership and miles above Carroll, and I cant see Carroll improving because I just cant see how he will ever fit into our way of playing.....

    To me Kenny had a get out option here where he could just have taken a 10mill hit with Bents RRP being 24m, to which IMO Carrolls real worth is 10-15mill max.....

    Not a great decision just IMO but I hope to see Carroll drastically improve and for me to eat my own words which I would gladly do if Carroll was to lead us into Champions League.

    YNWA

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    • There's no issue with the money or being able to spend. There's a minimum of 20M from sales of Meireles, couple others, and wages saved, plus I can say without a doubt if they find a player or players they want, and Henry agrees, they can have them. Obviously within reason..

      Far as the swap for Bent for Carroll, who really knows if that's true? I don't like Bent, but for a swap I'd do that in a second, but I can't imagine McLeish would make that offer..

      And regards to Carroll, I'm not sure what else he can do to improve or fit in better. He was brought in with the idea of being that big, powerful, bullying striker who could wear down Cbs and create space for himself and others. Well, it's not just my opinion, because I'm stealing a columnist's quote in saying he often goes down in a challenge like a piece of paper. He won't get any faster, he won't develop top class dribbling skills, he won't develop any flair. He could lose weight and become a little quicker, but then what? He's already not physical enough, and lacking the strength he should have for a lad his size. Dirk Kuyt wins more headers, and chest downs than he does, and jesus h, so does Suarez.

      If anyone's on the train that he still needs a run of games, and he's not getting enough games that's fine, but I'm not aboard that one. I'll gladly eat my words if he proves me wrong because it would equal success and that's all we care about, but I don't see where it's coming from.

      Put it this way, if Roy Hodgson had spent 35M on Andy Carroll and this was still the same result, what would you be saying? Things not permitted on this board, or around your family and friends and Hodgson would be chased out of the country!

      We are by NO means guaranteed a win vs City and going to Wembley as Silva will be back, and no game is easy this time of year, Bolton will be fighting for their home and EPL existence!

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      • I've been giving this Carroll thingy some thought and it occured to me that apart from the obvious issues surrounding Carroll i.e. his movement and willingness to get involved our midfield and forward line don't get into spaces that cause defences problems. That is we don't get anyone in between the opposition midlfield (that position and space that Silva finds so often) or even beyond their defence.

        I remember Dalglish's first stint as manager here at Liverpool and we had players penetrating deep into the opposition backline from all over the park. Overlaps out wide, midfield runs from deep. I hate to say it but even Utd have done this in the past. A prime example is Gerrards frist goal back a week or so ago. He ran from deep and went beyond the opposition back line.

        Maybe then we'd see a little more from Carroll. (with a bit of a kick up the rear perhaps)