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  • Jason Jason Apr 5, 2012 03:28 Flag

    A great piece, (imo), of things as they are

    Sometimes I don't particularly enjoy White's articles along with some of the other guys, Parker being a borderline complete idiot, but I have to say I think White does a tremendous job here looking at multiple angles and painting the picture exactly as it is.. https://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/blogs/jim-white/liverpool-must-back-flawed-dalglish-095130169.html

    I think he really hits it on the head about the overall situation with Kenny... yes he's having issues, but the talk of canning him now or even until they've sat down in the summer, isn't going to help anything and it's not as if Pep Guardiola is going to leave Barca at the moment..

    He really nails it again with the purchases, which a vast majority of us here agree with in who's been good, and who's been bad, as well as the spending habits vs a very good example in Newcastle..

    Bottom line, there are issues, some quite serious, others not as much as we are all making them out to be. There is alot of work to be done and money to be spent, as well as perhaps some very tough decisions, but I think there needs to be unity from top to bottom to build a strong foundation.. Henry, Comolli, Ayre, Kenny, Clarke and the players all need to be on the same page with what's wanted, needed and expected. If they aren't up to the task, then there's some serious issues beyond the current state of affairs and you'd think that would royally pi.ss off Henry.

    I personally hope Henry puts forth more of a hands on approach this summer in regards to players/transactions now having almost 2 full seasons as the owner under his belt, as well as seeing the league, other leagues and Champions League... He needs to bring his mind and authority to the table and become a calming influence and provide direction..

    For now, let's look to a big win vs Villa and right this ship as best as possible to see the season out!

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    • LFC will not be relegated Armchair. Thankfully they have exceeded the magical 40 points.

    • Don't worry Colin will see nothing but positives from this progressing side

    • As things as they are don't look good..

      It's looking to be worse than Hodgson and they say KD is the man they want?

    • After 25 mins of Villa game it looks like my predictions are coming true.

    • Good article, but it's pro KK. Let's be honest, in football numbers rule, and the numbers say that we are free falling FFS!

      The reality is that we have lost respect in the league, any team coming to Anfield expects points, we are not competing for a top 4 spot, we are 4 points above 13th place.

      It all becomes obvious when I look at the squad, there's no quality, and consequently we are where we belong: 8th place!

      A good manager creates synergy, KK hasn't done it. I turn red in envy when I see SAF's mediocre team about to deliver another EPL title... ENOUGH!!!!!!!!!!

      Supporters adore KK for who he was as a player, but as a manager he has been a complete disappointment. The truth is that we can't blame luck or refs this season, we have played crappy, uninspiring footy for a long time now. I look at the recent results and it makes me cry in anger.

      Ladies and gentlemen, this is Liverpool FC!!!

      We have a great history, and therefore high standards, it's time we stop making excuses, the current FSG/Commoli/KK/squad have been unable to restore our prestige.

    • Only problem is I forsee a poor performance against Villa as players try to avoid injury with a semi final on the horizon. Coupled with a goalkeeper with no experience of playing both with the team and in the PL. Villa will concentrate on Doni for sure. Will this be loss 7 out of 8?

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      • DELPHI...dont know how long u have been posting on this board but can u tell me have u EVER put up a POSITIVE post ?

      • I'll be completely honest, I usually keep this to myself, particularly prior to a kick off, but I had no expectations of winning at St. James. So if they had it would have been a great surprise to me and I think early doors they had chances, but after the few highlighted mistakes and boneheaded decisions, it was bound to fall apart, and did..

        I have no other option than to be positive for the Aston Villa game. We've literally put in dreadful performances in almost every recent match, and with alarm bells sounding, you have to think a few will pick up their game with some dignity and enthusiasm and get a win vs one of the terrible away sides in the league..

        We're all doing alot of criticizing and critiquing, which isn't exactly uncalled for, but as it gets closer to match day I have to be positive and expect the best, other wise why bother watching or even support the club. I also think keeping any eye's on Wembley is a mistake as hard as that is to do, but reality is, 1 game at a time.. Who knows, maybe we go on and win 8 in a row, lift a trophy and end this season like last with a huge impetus to make massive strides/purchases in the summer..

    • I agree it is overall a well balanced article. White compared to most of the commentators on Yahoo (and in general really) does actually seem to think before he starts writing.

      My only issue is a slight disagreement on the purchases. I will grant to date our buys have underwhelmed, while Newcastle on the other have done the opposite, but do think you need to peel the onion on that statement a little.

      There has been some debate on here about who is responsible for our buys, KD, or Damien. But I'd put up another. Who was responsible for the brief given; Young and British? And, was it the right brief?

      Newcastle went with an almost opposite approach. The buys were not old men, but were established known internationals. Also, by buying a pair of African players, they got a discount. British players we know have a premium, but with a player a club knows is going to be away for at least a couple weeks every other year there is a discount.

      I'd also argue they got very, very lucky with Ba. Now one mans luck is another mans smarts, but half a dozen clubs around Europe took a pass on Ba, not because he's not a good player, but he's a known injury risk who's failed a number of physicals. Credit, to Pardew and company for taking that risk and for the fact it paid off, but it’s obviously a risk we and many other clubs were not willing to take when Ba was available on a free.

      Which is the better brief maybe debatable depending on what your goals are. Going for proven obviously will improve a side more in the short term, but is it going to improve the club as well in the long term, and is it the most efficient way to go over the long term.

      Just to illustrate the point, Spurs got a huge boost to their strike force by bringing in Adebayor on loan, but he'll do sod all for them next term, unless Harry stumps up a load of cash plus add to his wage bill. Great for a short term boost, but I'd say we're still building our foundations, rather than looking for the capstone.