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  • Turkey_Slapper Turkey_Slapper May 16, 2012 00:54 Flag

    Is Kenny being Selfish ?

    Just read this article on Mirror Football, which suggests that Kenny was offered another role in the club which he turned down in favour of remaining the manager.
    http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/kenny-dalglish-latest-meeting-with-liverpool-834833

    If the reports are true then Kenny is being selfish by refusing to take another role with dignity which the current owners have been extremely kind to offer. I feel John Henry and Tom Werner want the club to move forward and not milk it for dividends like the previous owners. Which is the reason why they have not flat out sacked him and given consideration to fans feelings about the king. Most other managers would have gotten a sack by now.

    Kenny in my humble opinion should have set aside his personal ego for the Good of the club and taken another role within the club.
    As things stand now, I can not see Kenny finding a Job with another Club if he is sacked.

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    • Younger, older what difference does it make as long as he is the right man?

    • Slaps - I understand what you're saying. My brother lived in Rotterdam (actually Schiedam) for 8 years and when I visited, we would go to Feyenoord games. So I saw first-hand before he came to us what Dirk could do in front of goal.

      Dirk got 71 goals in 101 games for Feyenoord, and I was made up when we got him. We played 4-2-3-1 at the time and the last thing I expected was a striker with that hit rate to be shunted on to wing the way he was. It didn't and still doesn't make sense to me.

      Like you I want pace on the wings, the wings have been a clusterf*ck for us since Digger and Ray Houghton played for us.

    • Yep turn the page.. next chapter..

      I'm excited by the future of the reds..

    • I agree, but do think the owners have a very delicate job in front of them. We need to turn the page, but not throw away the book for a new one.

      I do think the vast majority of Reds (maybe not all) will accept Kenny going and look forward. It may actually be a good thing not to rush the appointment of the new manager. They can't hang around too long as their is business to be done this summer, but the new man has to come in with a strong mandate, as well as a plan we can all see is the movement in the right direction.

      It might also be helpful if the owners make their other plans public before the new season starts. A lot has changed since they came in, new sponsors, new kit company, and other commercial ventures. But we need to see and understand the plan, the vision the way forward. I know FSG have said they don't want to be judged by what they say but what they do, so they don't want to just talk about the future, and I do think that is fair enough. But I think we need to understand the vision for LFC in the 21st century, even if they don't let us in on all the details quite yet.

    • Thats why I think we need a younger manager AVB for example...

      He didn't suit Chelsea but may suit our style more?

    • I've touched on this before and you seem to be raising a similar point.

      As a club Liverpool needs a fresh start. It needs to be brought up to date while somehow maintaining the heritage that actually defines the brand. Having Kenny hanging over the club may actually not be helping that. It may also be part of the reason why Cotton has also left. As a club and a brand it's time to become more dynamic etc.

    • Actually I think there is another good reason why it’s not a good idea to keep Kenny on at the club, at least in the short term.

      No matter who comes in, no matter how good they maybe on paper, there will be some rocky times ahead. There will be an adjustment period, for the manager and the players, and most likely even more new players who will need a little time to settle. Even if everything goes perfect, in football all clubs are likely to hit a purple patch sooner or later.

      Now image the owners had installed Kenny as the director of football, special ambassador, or some other position, and he's sitting up in the directors box while the team goes through a rough spot. Maybe we've hit the post a half dozen times, gotten a couple no calls in critical scoring areas, maybe even a non penalty call, but at the other end the one scoring chance our mid or bottom table opponent miraculously goes in as if the ball has eyes.

      Now image a frustrated Kop starts chanting "Bring back the King".

      Seems to me that taking a graceful exit, keeping a low profile for a little bit is best for the club, and for a man who even his naysayers has to admit would never want to do anything to harm LFC, I'm sure that is what he'll do. The door should, and I'm sure will be open for the KD, but at least for a while I think it best he's away from the limelight.

    • I don't think it's arrogant at all Armchair.

      Imagine you are a kitchen fitter. You're busy fittng a new kitchen at home because the missus says so. She has lots of friends and kitchens are improtant to them. She must have a kitchen worthy of a top 4 place in her little kitchen mini league. There's a lot of work to do because it's an old house, the walls aren't straight and there's more than a few cracks to fill. You've started, things are going ok but having spent a lot of money you encounter a problem with the electrics and the whole project stalls. The foundations are all there, the kitchen's been ordered, so much to the pleasure of the other half that you've even won a cup of your favourite coffeefrom her. No mean feat. You even got close to getting another one before the electrics blew.

      teh dust settles on another week and you think right I've got the weekend to plan next weeks attack on the kitchen and get it up to scratch. Then the otherhalf can invite her firends over and they can compare kitchens. Yours will be in the top 4 for sure. Until that is the missus pulls the plug on you, stating you're not going to achieve the required goal in time for next weeks kitchen summit and has asked someone else in finish the job. They can change the spec slightly too.

      Would you be happy to accept a role sourcing parts for the new kitchen fitter? I don't think so!

    • Armchair , i said he was caretaker to start with. Then when he got the permamnent contract, that no longer is a care take contract. that the job of a full time manager and accordingly got the budget. I clearly remember in kennys interviews with media he was praising the owners for providing funds and investing in the squad. He even went on to say that they were happy to provide more if he wanted to buy more players. Thank god he didnt. AT the time we bought Jordan Henderson, i remember Liverpool were bidding for Connor Wickham in the region of 9 million pounds but Sunderland beat us to it with 12.. Once again thank god for that ! Where is he now ?
      At the time they were touting Wickham as the next Torres lol

      Now i just hope whoever the new coach they install, have a good eye for spotting Talent and not wastefull like Dalglish in buying players.

    • Like they want the same thing as this season, CL qualification placing. Should they sack again?

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