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  • John John Oct 7, 2012 21:53 Flag

    Kuyt , Belamy , Maxi , Carroll. Et tu John Henry?

    lets not forget about aqualani sold at a big loss charlie adam sold at a loss jay spearing off the wage bill plus the raft of other fringe players that have been pushed out

    the savings on wages for these players is around 450 grand a week around 20-25 million a year and that includes kuyt,bellamy,maxi and carrolls wages then we have any transfer fees received which is more money coming in so weres all the money going we bought allen 15 million assaidi 3 million sahin on loan and yet we couldn,t afford dempsey for 6 million on deadline day somethings not right

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    • Aquilani had to be sold at a massive loss for a plethora of reasons, none of which had anything to do with FSG or Rodgers.. Adam is really not worth mentioning because he'd be 8th choice cm in this current crop, and while I don't have the final numbers, perhaps someone like Dave does, our net spend was actually somewhere amongst the higher bracket in the EPL...

      Now having said that, while this is all a subject we've beaten to death for months now, something I really don't think is ever taken into consideration, at least not mentioned enough is, the starting 11 or best 11 players being more than good enough to compete and play with anyone at the top of the table on their day, which all are high earners and high priced tag players, yet we are operating without the funds of Champions League Football for over 3 years now, and without any European money at all last season..

      You can't really say how much Champions League would exactly bring in, but it could range from 10-30 Million per season, and the teams we are aspiring to get back to the level of, and overcome, while introducing a new manager, new players, youth players, new system all in it's 1st season, is almost an insurmountable task..

      Look at the amount of endorsement deals FSG have done in their time here... I couldn't even begin to count, but there's got to be well over 5-6 massive deals, and a vast majority of that money goes to servicing the existing wages that have helped retain and re-sign the likes of Skrtel, Agger, Suarez, Lucas..

      They are not filthy rich, billionnaires with money to just toss about like some of the others we want to take over, and for years before them, buys and the club overall has been mismanaged, and they are tightening up wages, getting rid of players that it's fair to say for most of us, aren't good enough but were making too much money, and laying down a new foundation..

      I know it's a new concept, and an ugly one that will never be received well for Liverpool fans including myself, or for many sides in England or Europe, but we are in a rebuilding mode, however, unlike sports here in America, and some very unfortunate football teams in England or elsewhere in Europe, the foundation has not been ripped out, gutted and stripped down to nothing..

      Of all those players mentioned, Kuyt was probably the one we could use the most, but it was a mutual thing, and whatever happened in January, went deeper than money, or not spending it.. something was terribly wrong.. That's not to say we were going to buy Neymar, but Rodgers didn't leave Melwood early in a good mood with a smile on his face, and then defend the owners without some sort of sanity and wit about him probably knowing whatever it is that happened..

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      • I think it's a bit silly to think that the team didn't need some work after last year.

        Remember our league position and lack of top drawer European football puts a serious dent in your finances and we were paying wages that reflected a team in that positon. The results were miles away from it.

        For whatever reason our form over the 2nd half of last season was awful. Bottom 3 from memory and the players mentioned above contributed very little in reality.

        I think it's fair to say that we have suffered from mismanagment for years and it's an extremely difficult ship to turn.

        Despite the current league form I'm quite happy with the current direction. At last the squad is starting to have a structure and identity. We know how we'll set and play and the players are there tofit into that system. It's far from finished that's for sure as we'll all concede that we need some punch up front.

        I am however concerned at the financial situation. I've no problem with the club operating within it's means, that's only right but while I support the decision not to simply blast money everywhere as the club has done I am worried that we wee not able to close out the Dempsey deal or find that much needed striker. I would certainly like to know why exactly