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What a stupid, stupid handball.. he had absolutely no chance of even coming close to getting a legal part of his body on that ball, let alone scoring.. just stupid, and I have to say, while he's been at his menacing best, and working hard, he's slipping into a dry patch and has looked likely to get a card all day with his demeanor.. This is the one thing with him, he's like a child who can only behave well for so long until getting slapped on the wrist.
Other than that, I've got nothing to say, other than Rodgers has a real headache for what was already going to be a tough one at West Ham, and I think it would be wise to play it cautious with Shelvey in Europa since he's the obvious choice as the False 9..
I suppose if I wanted to take my creativity to the border of ludicrous, we could consider Agger in the latter 15-20 .. I'd be too worried he'd break a fingernail or strain a toe.
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Sorry to politely disagree..
I'm expecting Shelvey in the center, flanked by Sterling and most likely Suso, maybe an outside chance of Downing, or Cole.
Morgan may make the bench, I could see that, but West Ham at the moment are very good form, a tough team phsycially like Stoke, and it will be at their place, so it's a difficult ask to start..
Just my opinion. And while we haven't seen him in a while, Yesil could state his claim in training this week too..
I understand fully it was a silly thing to do and it's upsetting he is now banned but he was always going to get a yellow card at some point in the season and there is no easy game for him to miss. I appreciate that there might be more cover in January but that is a big ask for someone so aggressive to go that long without picking one up. I think Jonjo or Stevie playing the 9 is most likely, Shelvey the most probable of the 2. I think we will probably find it won't change how we play too much but will be missing the spark of a 'goal out of nothing' man.
I think West Ham would murder Pacheco, Yesil, Morgan etc so don't see them as viable options, perhaps young Raheem could play through the centre and add something more orthodox (Downing, Cole, Henderson) out wide, just don't think he will hold the ball up that well but would be good on the break.
1 thing worth mentioning is that Suarez must be due a rest, the way he plays is so intense. We need him at Udinese this week so it might work out well over the coming xmas run in.
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very true Hobs.
At the moment I'm left a little confused by the whole Yesil thing to be honest. If it is a strict loan deal then we certainly aren't benefitting from it and I'm quite sure Leverkusen would say the same.
If the ability is there as it supposed to be, and his international performances suggests then I thought we would have seen more of him by now.
To me it seems that Rodgers thinks / knows that he simply isn't ready and that raises some questions over why we did the deal in the first place.
We have played some games without Suarez in Europe I think. So, it is not new. Just that those situations, we have left him out by choice but now, we have the decision forced on us.
Perhaps, without a key man, the ball may be played more evenly among the front players and that may be better for us, then sending most of the ball to him. After all, that is one reason why we think a strike partner who can share the responsibility with Suarez is good.
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I'm glad that you each made those comments Mel and Hobs.. especially yours Mel.. it was almost too ridiculous for me to respond to considering he has 10 of our 18 goals, and directly contributed to 4 others, including our only vs Southampton where his free kick hit the bar, ending up with Glen's cross to Agger..
Hobs is right too. I do think he was showing a far more mature/calm character and that there was a chance he'd make it past January without a card, so that said, it was always going to happen, but I hated it being that way. But then again, if it came for what seems to be a player who seems to hardly go down anymore, nor curse up a storm at the refs, then maybe hadball was the better of all evils. And, yes, he did need a rest, though perhaps if we could have just gotten through this one, since I'd fancy a go vs Villa at home instead, but it is what it is.. and maybe Shelvey gets himself in a hot streak, and someone else like Sahin or Suso steps up as provider, or Assaidi?
Regards to Yesil, it was a purchase, with an option to buy back. Based on the fact he's started twice, once a very good outing vs WBA in the cup, and another decent, but lonely cut figure vs Swans, he hasn't been on the end of nearly enough for Bayer to take him back, and I think unless he's a complete bust, and since he's 18 FFS hopefully we're not slating him and branding him one, because when he's w/ Germany he's an absolute stud, and they truly regard him as the next big thing down the line.. That said, obviously I've got no idea anymore than you do, but I think I've seen his face in training pictures, so based on how Rodgers goes about things, if you're not up to it in training, or strong/fit enough, you don't even make the bench sometimes...
If Cole is literally burning 110K a week into FSG's pocket, and theoretically talented enough to make the bench yet rarely does outside Europe, then, Yesil will just have to improve. I think we'll see good things from him, I really do and hope he doesn't fall into a scapegoat mode like Ngog did, while I also think far more talented/polished at same age..
Who knows, maybe he makes the bench or surprise start? Another name, not Morgan, that I'd really like to see, perhaps the best of the lot at the moment, is Adorjan.. He seems to be very very physically capable at the moment with the reserves. Fast, pacy, good size, and quite clinical.. Reminds me of a much better Nemeth, who I did rate, but never quite got a chance, not enough for me anyways.. But I'd like to see Adorjan sooner than later, and perhaps ahead of Morgan..