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  • colin colin Dec 15, 2012 17:31 Flag

    Downing as a defender!!!

    Jason...shocking performance certain players who shall remain nameless should be docked theeir wages for this game for the crime of lack of commitment !
    Its becoming increasingly frustrating watching us dominate possession to reap absolutely nothing...? The owners if and I think that is a VERY big if they are commited to the cause of restoring some glory to the club must break the bank for a PROVEN world class striker NOT some prospect that we can shell out another 10 mill squid on who flops and then call him a prospect for this MYTHICAL "future" we are forever being promised by FSG and BR working hand in glove. Look at RVP at Old Toilet ...hes no spring chicken but hes providing a good haul of goals for the fee paid and helping UniTURD cover themselves in glory for yet another season while we get these hopeless drones of the level of ability of Cole Borini Aquilani Henderson Downing how much did we pay for this lot and more to the point how much will we ultimately have lost on them by the time theyare all gone? Then there is the contentious issue of allowing Andy C to be LOANED to WHU to save on his salary? The players I have named above I must add are all professionals and as with any players its necessary that they are well coached to play at the top of their abilities consistently as a TEAM and if they are not doing so then we must look for reasons why this is so and for me it is becoming increasingly difficult to maintain faith in BR who like the owners always speaks of a MYTHICAL future ? For me "the future" is January transfer window and if maximum usage isnt made of that opportunity to bring in some World Clas PROVEN strikers I think for many among the support FSG and BRs honeymoon will most definitely be OVER! .....We NEED someone who can put the ball in the onion bag someone besides Suarez who has been a hero this season and without his efforts I feel we would be struggling right now to stayout of the bottom three.... !!!

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    • Well Colin,

      I think you know me well enough and how I post by now that I have no problem calling out names when I see fit, so I can say the names with or without others agreeing.. needless to say I did it a ton last year, and some have moved on and done no better..

      Gerrard, while he scored a goal, to me and the player I've known, was absolutely miserable today in every aspect. Suarez set him up on a plate at least twice and he barely tapped at Guzan, his corners awful, always turning it over, sloppy giveaways.

      Lucas was just not very match fit, though not awful. Allen is seeming like we are running him into the ground and is regressing where early on looked like player of the season. I always praise skrtel and I found him a little left wanting on the first goal for backing off to much..

      Glen, a shadow of who played at West Ham, Shelvey couldn't put a foot right, and Suarez seemed to have one of those games where all the ideas and decisions were there but just lacking the rght touch.. Oh, and back to par for the course, Reina must have been getting a gift at the shop on that first goal.. a 30 yard low drive that he missed by a mile, no matter how hard it was shot, that was inexcusable for me, especially watching Guzan look like Buffon across the pitch..

      So, basically the entire team aside from Downing, Agger, and in bits Sterling, who still is lacking in providing something. I know he's young, but since he's being used as automatic first choice 11, the expectations have to be there for him, and he doesn't seem capable yet of making a decision whether to make a cut and take a shot, play a low ball, or make some sort of cross.. He gets past his marker into the box wayyyy to often to end up with nothing..

      As I've said, and most of everyone knows by now, this is a rebuilding process and is going to take more time. The progress has been there, but today was an absolute humiliation, and sadly to say it, was very reminiscent of the final months/weeks of Kenny's reign last season. Ironically, we had a week off to prepare, whereas we'd been play 2-3 fixtures every 8 days recently so who knows, maybe too much time off for a team that was 3rd in form to the 2 Manchester clubs..

      End of the day, Rodgers has his ideas, ethos, system but doesn't have the horses to run the race. And, while it's over said and done, alot of people sayd they're actually glad we didn't sign Clint Dempsey... well, look at our issue, which is a 3 year recurring them outside of anyone named Suarez, Gerrard and Torres, and Dempsey's 3 goals and 3 assists for Spurs while not even being a regular starter, where he'd be first 11 with us, should re-think that, esp when saying X was too much, or his age was too old..

      We need to get our ass in gear and toughen up, take 3 points vs Fulham and really knuckle down after that with 2 more where we CAN get results, make it to January in the top half, top 8 and get in 3 players who will bring end product.. We need pace, creativity, and someone who hits the ball in between the sticks where there isn't a body, not at the goalie or into the stands..

      I felt embarassed for Rodgers today, along with myself and the folks at Anfield.. regardless if he could have chosen a player here and there, he didn't spend all week with them practicing that garbage that occured after our routine opening 20" onslaught of the opposition's goal, yet never to score..

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      • Colin, Jason, nail on the head for me. We are still one step forward, one back. Meaning? The steps forward result when we play teams who cannot defend. Result? The odd winning goal. The steps back come when we face an organised defence and managers and teams who know that the way to beat us is to defend in numbers then score on the break.

        Until we clear out all those who are not up to the Messi, Javi, Alonso, Villa standard, the results will remain the same UNLESS one of two things happen.

        One, the owners realise that we have average ability players who are incapable of delivering the Rogers style of football and bring in around 150 million of talent. That ain´t going to happen - ever - as far as I can see!

        Two, BR realises that until such time as we become Barcelona - and without massive expenditure that's not even on the horizon - he has to adapt his tactics to the talent he has and sacrifice attractive football meantime in order that we avoid relegation!

        QPR and their highly average squad in Redknap´s second game turn losing to winning and I bet it will continue. Our players are good enough to get us into fourth place but not playing the way BR seems to want them to.

        A new defender and a new striker are not the answer. It´s more radical than that! Hope I am wrong but, sadly, I don´t see anything to prove that so far this term.

      • We cry out for a "WORLD CLASS STRIKER".. but on our current form who'd wanna come to us? We're not exactly attractive right now are we?

        As for FSG "breaking the bank".. do they have any liquid cash to afford such a player? I would suspect not.. So once again we've got the wrong owners at LFC. As well as the wrong manager to take us forward..

        If only we'd been bought by wealthy arabs who were keen to buy us at the time.. I believe? Correct me if I'm wrong?