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  • LFC_Armchair_Supporter LFC_Armchair_Supporter Dec 15, 2012 15:54 Flag

    Downing as a defender!!!

    WTF he's not a defender he's a winger..

    Whats Rodgers playing at?

    No wonder we're losing against Villa as it stands.. 0 - 2.

    We need a defender and striker in the January sales..

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    • Armchair,

      Don't even know why I'm bothering, and after today's performance/final score, why this is even worth my time, but you really need to pay alot more attention to the team that's called LFC.

      This is AT LEAST the 5th (probably alot more) time that Downing has played, perhaps even started at left back. Enrique had a hamstring injury and was only just fit enough to make the bench.

      This was a dreadful, perhaps the worst I can remember in the past 12 months being that it was at Anfield, performance, but oddly, and ironically enough, if there was such a thing, today I felt our best player was Downing..

      So, it's basically meaningless, but our problems highlited over and over not only by myself and others are up front, and not just a striker, where I've been adament we need a classy wide player who does both score and create. Sterling while improving, not providing much product, Assaidi can't get himself in the squad, Cole is terrible, Suso not a real wide player, Downing preferred as a left back at least out of neccessity and nobody to play centrally if Suarez played wide..

      Allen has really hit a major dip in form, though he's 22 and the best of what he showed early is still yet to come, but I'd really liked for Rodgers to have broken that agreement and gone for Sinclair from day 1. I thought he should have been his top target and he's rotting away at City ..

      Sh*t performance, but Downing, and our defenders weren't really the problem, terrible midfield all around, no finishing and sloppy turnovers all over giving goals on a plate..

      • 3 Replies to Jason
      • Jason...shocking performance certain players who shall remain nameless should be docked theeir wages for this game for the crime of lack of commitment !
        Its becoming increasingly frustrating watching us dominate possession to reap absolutely nothing...? The owners if and I think that is a VERY big if they are commited to the cause of restoring some glory to the club must break the bank for a PROVEN world class striker NOT some prospect that we can shell out another 10 mill squid on who flops and then call him a prospect for this MYTHICAL "future" we are forever being promised by FSG and BR working hand in glove. Look at RVP at Old Toilet ...hes no spring chicken but hes providing a good haul of goals for the fee paid and helping UniTURD cover themselves in glory for yet another season while we get these hopeless drones of the level of ability of Cole Borini Aquilani Henderson Downing how much did we pay for this lot and more to the point how much will we ultimately have lost on them by the time theyare all gone? Then there is the contentious issue of allowing Andy C to be LOANED to WHU to save on his salary? The players I have named above I must add are all professionals and as with any players its necessary that they are well coached to play at the top of their abilities consistently as a TEAM and if they are not doing so then we must look for reasons why this is so and for me it is becoming increasingly difficult to maintain faith in BR who like the owners always speaks of a MYTHICAL future ? For me "the future" is January transfer window and if maximum usage isnt made of that opportunity to bring in some World Clas PROVEN strikers I think for many among the support FSG and BRs honeymoon will most definitely be OVER! .....We NEED someone who can put the ball in the onion bag someone besides Suarez who has been a hero this season and without his efforts I feel we would be struggling right now to stayout of the bottom three.... !!!

      • Jason, partly right but don´t underestimate the overall problem which was clearly on view today. Far too slow in the build up and still passing sideways and backwards waiting for support at the front. Result? Every attack faced with eleven closely ranked defenders. Villa? Fast on the break, penetration not passing and facing only two or three desparately backpedalling defenders.

        It´s all very well playing the whole team in attack and then in defence but for that never changing strategy to succeed the players need to be far faster up and down the pitch and we lack the athleticism to do that successfully leaving ourselves outnumbered at both ends of the pitch.

        In other words, the system is not suited to the players we have.

      • Then is it worth us going for Sinclair and a couple of strikers?

    • Joe Cole is so terrible, and that really shows how thin the squad is especially after Brendan has admitted that he's going to have to rest Sterling and Allen (though we're covered for Allen) very soon..

      The answer to the previous question or statement on Downing at left back is really quite simple. Earlier in the season Downing said it's a position he's played before and didn't mind it or feel uncomfortable, and Brendan had said he's done fine in training. And to be fair, he's done quite ok there, hardly the source of any major problems, and one of the few good players vs Villa. All of that said, Enrique barely passed fit minutes before, so probably just made the match, obviously Wisdom must have a knock since he wasn't included, we don't have Kelly, and clearly Rodgers has no interest in Flannagan, who I don't think is really that good either, so aside from that option, or playing Carra there, he had only Glen and Downing available, unless he went with Flanny, and Glen left..

      Hopefully Wisdom is ok, and nothing serious, and while not expecting anything, would be great to hear Kelly news.

      Downing was told he can leave multiple times, and again recently, so he's being used out of necessity and to showcase in the window.

      Sadly, we'll be lucky to get 5-6M, if that for him, and regards to Cole, we're going to have to eat a huge chunk of wages alone to get him gone down the road. I think alot of people over look these things when they talk about the transfers.. the wages, these 2 alone, almost 200K per week! That's millions over the course of the year, enough to buy 1 player alone..

      We've made some awful buys in recent years, and FSG has really had a tough time trying to correct this after trusting the debacle that was last summer's window, and now leaving Brendan a bit handcuffed. Fortunately, and he's said it many times, he has his targets, multiple, and he has the money he needs without the need to sell, so Downing will be a bonus, where Cole has got to be a priority out.. But, when saying he has the money he needs, people will also misconstrue and say it needs to be 40M 45M etc and buy this guy or that guy, when he has multiple holes to fill, the wages are crippling the pockets of guys who aren't filthy rich on oil and made it very clear, to clean this up and implement a solid pay structure foundation.

      That doesn't mean cheap buys, but January is so tough especially inflated prices and knowing who needs to buy.. I think it will be more baby steps in the right direction, and the better the team gets and Rodgers system settles in, we're not going to see a massive one off, world class buy in one shot, at least not until the summer..

    • I am baffled! What to make of that debacle I simply don´t know. Here´s a summary.

      Aston Villa at home and over twenty attempts at goal - no score.

      Six attempts by Villa - three goals.

      Absolutely no inspirartion in the final third

      Outhought, outmanouevered, outplayed, outclassed, - no excuses. We were a joke!

    • I knew the game was up when with us 2-0 down, Joe Cole came on to salvage something for us. Joe Cole really Brendan?

      Anyway to cut the long story short, Joe did not disappoint as he promptly gifted the ball to Villa for Benteke to make it 3-1.