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  • Jason Jason Jan 18, 2013 20:41 Flag

    Player Loyalty to Clubs Going Forward..

    Well, I think that was a very fair and thorough assessment and response..

    The reason I ask, and I probably will continue to do so, is again, it's still surprisingly a bit shocking to me after these 10-11 years or whatever.. American sportwise, I'm very much used to it, both the good and bad.. Here, some players (it seems more common than "Football") actually stay as lifelongers with teams, though not as many as earlier years, and then in other instances, they move strictly because of money.. Of course we have the players who start getting on in age, and then decide if they still have enough to offer, and perhaps be a starter, or if not, someone who contributes enough and they'll choose to go to a team who they think will or can win.. In that instance, you can't really hold a grudge, and if you (and anyone else interested) were to want to separate examples there, have a look at my Denver Broncos.. Champ Bailey is my favorite player, and has been for 13 years, the best at his position, and over the past decade, they've not been very good, yet he's stayed and I hope to god they win a Super Bowl for him.. Then we have Peyton Manning, one of the greatest qbs of all time who missed all of last year w 4 neck surgeries, and decided to join Denver now at the age of 35, highly sought after, but thinking it would be the best place to end his career and win as an older qb.. They finished 13-3, 2nd best record in the whole NFL but were shockingly defeated last week... dagger in the heart for me, and them..

    But getting back to your football, and based on the Cavani interview(s), and other things he's said, I'm just wondering if other players will have a similar type of feeling or comments at one moment, and then see them through for a length of time afterwards, rather than just jumping ship right away when things aren't all peachy?

    In Cavani's case, he's a bit unique.. he's got Italian roots, he genuinely does love it there, his team has other Uruguayans and S. American players he's friends with, and Napoli are 2nd in the table, 3 pts off the lead. They are a very good team, but not as explosive as the one who had the fun ride in last year's CL, so nothing is guaranteed... If they do miss CL, I don't think he changes his mind, and predict he stays, unless their Chairman (very wealthy) is in some dire need of funds and wants to sell him, which he's stated adamently he doesn't and would only do so when Cavani asks..

    I used Agger as another example.. He does seem pretty genuine, and for a guy who's as outspoken as any on LFC, outside of a 14th-16th place finish, which would also mean he's not done his job, I don't see him leaving..

    I guess it's a hard question because let's face it, not too many players will leave United right now, even if they're getting 1 game in 3.. like Kagawa.. and the same for Chelsea.. City I can see another scenario because nobody aside from 4-5 players gets any regular action there, and they're not performing to standards..

    Look how terribly unhappy Kaka is at Fail Madrid, and the problem ultimately is his fault.. He accepted a move, it was a record fee, and his wages are through the roof.. Milan would have him back if they could pay his wages, and in hindsight, much like Fernando Torres, if they'd known the future, they wouldn't be in this conversation..

    The grass isn't always greener, even if you get a few pieces of silverware.. I guess it's just my personal perspective that pride, playing time, a career and legacy are just as important as the accolades .. But, I'm a bit different..

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    • Jason, I think one thing to consider and I don't know all the details, but I don't think you see as much movement in American sports specifically because the teams don't want it, and so have structured it that way.

      For example I think most American footballers are on much longer contracts than our footballers, and there are actually restrictions by age of who and cannot become a free agent. There is no equivalent of 2 transfer windows, or a real transfer market in the NFL but a releasing of free agents or trading between clubs.

      Baseball might be a better comparison, where in fact there is a lot more movement of players. But, again I think other than the older players who are eligible for free agent status, most of the trading is between clubs, with the player really given a take it or leave it choice once the deal is done.

      I’m not saying one system is better than the other but I do think it’s fair to say that football (the real kind) does operate in the free market, with the transfer market being a strong example, while American sports operates much more in a closed market where a specific league rather than the market itself gets to dictate the rules of any transactions that occur, and that control by its nature is likely to suppress movement.