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  • dsteer_lfc_68 dsteer_lfc_68 Feb 19, 2013 23:24 Flag

    Anyone for a Carra/Stevie combi to run the show ?

    Colin, simple answer is no, at least not now.

    For me Carra is very likely to go into management, and from what I can tell could end up a very good manager (although you never know if you can swim until you jump in the deep end). Stevie on the other hand I'm less sure of. But even if Stevie has the touch, I just don't think either would be ready yet. I'd prefer any player wanting to go into management to ease into it by either climbing the ranks within a club - youth team, or assistant positions, or go to a smaller lower league club to learn the ropes. We're a huge club, and there is a lot more than just pep talks and training sessions to run for the modern manager, and the consequences of a simple stumble are huge, both for the manager and the club.

    But another point I'd make, which I think I may have posted to you on Saturday, before Yahoo decided to delete the weekend’s posts, was your change in position it seems. I thought you felt BR deserved at least till the end of the season, if not half of next season before we considered giving him his P45. Are you now openly advocating we sack BR? I know you had doubts about BR and have for a while, but it seems quite a shift if I read what you’re posting now, and what I assume you posted over the weekend, if you think we need rid of him now and appoint a player manager twosome in Carra/Stevie.

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    • I think that JC will be our manager one day, I think he could be a legendary manager at that too. In fact, I would go as far as to say he will suceed BR at the club whenever that time may come. But I dont think that time is now, JC will likely go away and finish his coaching badges and then take a no.2 job somewhere, if not at LFC this coming season. For me, he seems set up to be a high profile no.2, he could be the guy to shut out the mistakes and work on improving our defenders positioning and game reading abilities, those qualities will benefit the team to the same amount as him actually being the manager. I love how we play, I dont want that to change but it needs a bit of fiddling to tighten it up and change how quickly we change our shape when we lose the ball, I think he could aid that too.

      All the stuff about him on the sidelines could be benefitted by him being in the dugouts as a no.2, you can still do all the shouting from there!

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      • I tend to agree with you, but the question is what is the best pathway from ex player to top manager? Obviously there is not just one path, but I do think jumping straight in is the wrong way to go about it.

        Starting within the club would have a lot of benefits for Carra, and of course for us if he was working with the first team. But I also think at some point you need to do the top job, because at any level there is a huge gulf between someone who advises the top man, and the man who has to take responsibility alone. So taking charge of a youth team, or the reserves might be a potential pathway. It’s the way BR came up, and I'm sure he'd offer advice as the two of them seem to have a good relationship now.

        Another idea is to go outside the club, which for me might not help us right now, but getting a wider view would help Carra, especially as he's only ever known one club and one way of doing things. We may think the Liverpool way is the best way, but should recognize there are other ways, and we can lean from that. Starting in league One, the Championship or even abroad would allow him to gain experience and do things away from the limelight as every decision would be under the microscope if he started higher up the ladder.

        End of the day I think you are right, Carra is likely to be not just a good manager, but potentially a great manager, and it would be great if he did that with us. However I don’t think, unlike players, managers are just born into the job. It’s not something instinctive, but something where experience is key. With few exceptions the great managers all did their apprenticeships either at lower league clubs, or in the equivalent of boot rooms before they stepped out on the big stage alone.