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  • Jason Jason May 5, 2013 15:31 Flag

    The View of the Derby..

    Just my view anyways, but I am extremely disappointed with Everton because it really seemed they were only interested in hoping to steal a winner with some long balls, but continuous fouls all match long, not allowing us to get into ours. To me, and I'd feel #bitter if I were an Everton supporter, their only ambition was to ensure they finish ahead of LFC, which still isn't a certainty with a 5 point gap and 6 to play for..

    Anyways for us, some of the encouraging things were that Coutinho was just too skilled and classy on the ball, but constantly fouled. We really coped well vs the physical style, where a game like this 3-4 months would have hammered us. Lucas and Gerrard were excellent in the middle as far as controlling the area, and our backline, all 4 of them were up for it. While he played only 12 minutes, it was good to see Skrtel in there and keep things cool and calm at the back in the final minutes, winning a few headers, and allowing Rodgers to have a very attack minded idea to finish it out..

    Ultimately, it was a very disappointing derby for me, but I really felt we tried for a win much harder than they did.. It was a clear day where Suarez would have been a difference, and also shows how much help Rodgers needs in the market when the bench had only Suso Assaidi Coates Shelvey and a goalie to choose from. No Sterling, and obviously nobody else but reserve players too young to be in contention.

    We need a winger, in fact I think 2.. So Ince, Sinclair, Rojas (Melbourne) and a stronger more mature Sterling, and a big guy in the center like the Diame's of the world.. If Newcastle go down, Mousa Sissoko should be our immediate target.. he's a monster who can play all over but can boss anyone..

    We, Rodgers/FSG have work to do,, More clearing out, and more quality in..

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    • I think it unlikely that u will see much inthe way of quality in Jason if Rogers has his way itll be more "average" players that hes managed before on his travels. Think there will be something of a clearout though. My view of todays match ...been watching derbys for best part of 60yrs and have to say of those I recall this was the worst Ive ever seen ! Try and big it up all u want we were rubbish ..nocutting edge Sturridge as greedy and hapless as ever the game at NEWCASTLE was like a mirage they were as bad as any team was ever going to get against us...and we werent going to see a repeat performance against The Blue Noses today I knew that but I did expect a BIT OF PASSION...??? We are a long long way from a side that can launch a serious challenge for a top 4 slot let alone a TITLE tilt.

    • I think it unlikely that u will see much inthe way of quality in Jason if Rogers has his way itll be more "average" players that hes managed before on his travels. Think there will be something of a clearout though. My view of todays match ...been watching derbys for best part of 60yrs and have to say of those I recall this was the worst Ive ever seen ! Try and big it up all u want we were rubbish ..nocutting edge Sturridge as greedy and hapless as ever the game at NEWCASTLE was like a mirage they were as bad as any team was ever going to get against us...and we werent going to see a repeat performance against The Blue Noses today I knew that but I did expect a BIT OF PASSION...??? We are a long long way from a side that can launch a serious challenge for a top 4 slot let alone a TITLE tilt.

    • To be honest, I don't blame the blue noses for playing the way they did, it's up to us to find solutions to that and we didn't. Although we've improved against physical teams, we're still not good enough to physically boss teams. Diame - yes! Sissoko - yes!

      I agree 100% that we can't afford to be Scrooge this summer - we need to spend some serious dosh, because my fear is if we don't make the CL next summer, players will be off and we won't attract players and we're down the plug-hole forever.

      • 1 Reply to Loki
      • Firstly I saw nothing wong with Distan's goal.

        Secondly Coutinho is looking some buy. His vision is exceptional.

        Otherwise I'd say we always struggle against teams that play with a bit of grit. Fine if we go ahead early otherwise it's a bit of a war of attrition. We get a little too deep and leave our lone striker very isolated.

        A few thoughts on that.

        1. we need to squeeze up a bit. That's tough when you haven't got the muscle in the middle. Enter my call for a midfield general who can dominate in those tight spaces. They'll soon bck off then.

        2. A striker who can hold the ball up maybe but that still means you're playing too deep for my liking.

        3. To me it's the midfield again. Too often crosses or long diagonals were seeking out Sturridge and absolutely no chance in finding him. Ball was coming from too deep or people weren't up with him.

    • Assaidi would have been a more positive sub than Skrtel. It looked more like we were making sure not to lose. You are correct about Coutinho, but from he does need to do more running with the ball near the box and in the box. And again we have failed to break down a fairly average side at home.

      • 2 Replies to arnoldlayne
      • I agree with Jason. Bringing on Skrtel was all about turning our full backs into wing backs which is a very positive move. Jose was giving the Everton right side real problems but he was well defended, while we've seen Glen be the difference before, but in this case he just did not have the magic

      • With regards to Skrtel, I think it was a positive move on both ends of the pitch. We did defend really well for the best part of the match, with the obvious questionable call on Distin/Anichebe, but as the game started to grind down, it seemed only inevitable that Everton would just continue to go even more direct, with Pienaar and Mirallas getting nowhere vs our fullbacks, and having brought on Jelavic, another bigger target to go with Anichebe and Fellaini. So we had our 3 best CBs and our tallest (not named Coates) back there to ensure all trouble was cleared away, and at the same time it allowed for Enrique and Glen to just go forward much more as the pleased..

        Enrique seemed to be camped out in the Everton half with Lucas covering a bit more to his side, so I think in that sense Skrtel worked to our favor in both areas. I think Assaidi was just on the bench because Sterling isn't going to be fit the rest of this season, and one would think if he could have caused any trouble to Everton on that left hand side, or even right, he would have come on.

        When I looked at the bench, I really didn't see anything .. Shelvey seems to have played his way out of favor, and when he has come on recently hasn't looked good, so we still need a lot of work.