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I personally think AW would have settled for a draw at the start of the game. And from a improvement point of view it made very little difference, as once again results in the PL keep yo-yoing up down each week. The equalizer was a matter of naivety. Should have been playing 'keep the ball' instead of waiting for the whistle to blow in desperation. However at the end of the season it will have had little effect on 3rd or 4th place. Also does anyone not see a golden opportunity in the CL having drawn Monaco?? I do, and I think we could be the very dark horses here. The unbeaten in several matches now, still leaves us with great potential. Though to read Yahoo and the rest of the Arsenal knockers, its 'the end' for Arsenal and AW. ....guffaw!
Happy New Year John and those few left on this board. I think Podolski makes us weaker in theory only. Wenger refused to play him and even chose Sanogo ahead of him.
Personally I don't think Wenger will do what it takes in the window and on the pitch. I also think he is burning out Sanchez by playing him way too much. A few weeks ago Wenger admitted Sanchez is playing in the red zone, yet with the exception of 1 CL game he has not rested him. This could come back to haunt us. Also when Ozil returns we will be even weaker defensively. So my prediction that we finish outside of the top 4 still stands.
We don't even have the budget to buy the players we need. IMO we need Schneiderlin and a top quality CB.
TBH even with our injured players fit we didn't impress.
I agree with Jacks that it was a nobrainer that we were not going to trouble Southampton throwing crosses into the box to Sanchez, Carzorla and Rosicky. I guess even Campbell has more physical presence than those three yet Campbell is an other player Wenger gives no minutes to get used to the PL.
There was an article about Fellaini at first being deemed surplus to requirements and now seemingly back into the grace of Van Gaal. Van Gaal seems to have learned that you can not only have technically gifted players in the PL but that you also need physically imposing players. Matic has been huge for Chelsea.
Since the departure of Vieira and Gilberto we have never really had an impsing midfield presence let alone an intimidating DM. Arteta is neither a natural DM nor physically imposing and Flamini is running out of runway and not an imposing player. How come Wenger fails to see in 10 years what Van Gaal appears to realize inside of 10 games.
After the draw at West Brom, Van Gaal conceded that he may have to adapt his own philosophy a little as he continues to learn about English football.
'We have to look also for physical talents and maybe that's our problem,' said Van Gaal in explaining his decision to leave out Ander Herrera.
'I'm a coach who is always thinking about creative players but in England you also need physical bodies in your team and Fellaini is one of these.'
Its 4th place that Wenger will cling onto. He hopes. His real agenda is the CL. title. One he came close to or was robbed of which ever way you want to look at it. I think he is intent on pulling another rabbit out of his magic hat and hopefully nicking a win as L'pool did and Chelsea a while back when no one expected them to. Its the only title Wenger wants to finish his career with. Don't hold your breath, but stranger things have happened in football. As Manure can attest to when they pinched two goals in the last minute against Bayern, to win it.
So libel, wasting police time as well as the offence you have been reported for. Do you have screenshots never mind now that Police are involved they will request all my yahoo posts , as they will yours.
We had better not post to each other again. Keep larfin
Wilshere has been injured since, what, October? Until he has a good stretch of games but no improvement I maintain he has bags of potential. Until his latest injury, his form had been decent, though inconsistent. He looked like he had improved on last year. He's also only just turned 23, so he's got plenty of time to sort himself out. I don't think you can really write off a footballer's career until at least late 20s and even then some players make extraordinary leaps in the space of just a few months. But with his profile from an early age, I accept Wilshere really is running out of time to keep himself fit, show some form and actually develop as a player.
I will agree several things with anyone:
1) he's clearly a stupid little khunt, though that's basically par for a PL footballer
2) if he keeps getting injured potential, etc is entirely meaningless. RVP managed multiple seasons with injury after injury, but I don't think we have the patience for that with Wilshere.
3) he shouldn't be walking into the England team just because he's Wilshere, a press darling and has "potential". He does actually have to do something.
But I've seen nothing to discourage my belief that (a) he is highly talented and has all the right attributes to be the best English midfielder over the next decade (I actually think Wilshere and Henderson could be a formidable partnership and (b) his skills are almost unique amongst English footballers where we have an overflow of physical grafters, which makes him a footballer of the future rather than of the past.
All that being said, his attitude stinks and his rate of development over the last few years is extremely disappointing.
I guess the reason this board is so empty is partly because there is nothing new to say about Arsenal that has not been said for the last 7 or 8 years.
It can happen you have a poor game, although it happens far too often to a team with out talent, but with a few leaders on the pitch last night does not happen. To me we lacked leaders more than anything, Leaders would have stopped this running around like a headless chicken and taken a 2-0 or 2-1 defeat.
We have too many players who go missing in the big games and to me Giroud has always been one of them. He is ok against smaller teams but he has very little technique and control.
I thought Ozil was not as bad as the press made him out and many of his passes got wasted by his team mates, but he will never be defensively what Sanchez is. He is a liability for a team with weak defending.
Thanks for the reply John. Although I envy you for being able to go the games, I understand the mixed feelings you might have about paying for some of the performances in these big games.
From television it looked similar to what you summarized. Although I think Ozil appeared a bit unlucky with his team mates in as far as some of his passes being squandered.
Your summary could have easily been of an other Arsenal game though and that is the worry for me.
IMO the best game we played as a collective, maybe not the prettiest, was against City. We seemed to press early, move up and down the pitch as a collective, not leaving big spaces between our lines for the opponents to take advantage of and maintained focus pretty much through out the game. It almost felt a little like Barca and Bayern play as a collective and press high on the pitch. But then we never seem to play like that again despite having shown we are capable of it.
By now you know I don't think highly of Giroud and I hope we will add some depth at his position this summer, now that it seems likely Wenger won't spend on a top DM thanks to the impressive debut season of Coqleulin.
As weak as it sounds, I think the ref for the return leg of the Monaco game is going to be the determining factor. Will he allow Monaco to foul us out of our rhythm or will he hand out some early yellows to give us a chance?
Burnley were never going to give us a hard game. Sanchez's first goal was superb. His work rate all over the pitch is fantastic. Comparisons are being drawn, but they are more that he is like a Suarez type player. Let's hope he only copies his prolific scoring record and not his biting, diving and racism.
You lot should have beaten Mancnobber Ushyted after playing them off the park.
Their glory boy fans are filling the Yahoo articles with gloating comments, it's sickening!
I'm surprised that old fanny from Cairns didn't take a break from her imaginary tour of Asia to post a gloating comment, but perhaps she's had her electricity cut off again for not paying the bill?
Seven weeks travelling around paradise with my son, and what's happened here?
The sad, immature Geordie has sunk to new depths of immaturity with ..... wait for it ..... Mancnobber Ushyted ...... can you believe that? He gets younger as he gets older! I made an hilarious video on Sanur Beach in Bali, asking the locals what they thought of Geordies, I'll get it up on Youtube soon. Their reputation as idiots has crossed the world!
Then we have the yank, who has responded to Govinda's football posts with his usual vitriol, a substitute for football knowledge. He can't compete one on one talking football, so he does what he does best, shows himself up with childish insults, and the usual reference to standing on the North Bank 50 years ago, with the claim that makes him a REAL fan.
Govinda's repost to the yank's threat that he was, ".... saving this and I'm going to rub your moaning bl..dy face in it." was hilarious, it sent the yank right over the top! Good stuff Govinda.
This place really should be put down. Luckily, I'm off next year, moving to Bali. I've got a nice four bed villa on Sanur beach with a pool, a cook and a maid, (mandatory there to employ at least one person), and the chance to take a stake in a local nightclub, not a pretend one like the whole of Geordie Child's life!
I won't do what certain idiots did here last season, and brag about the fact Arsenal and United have swapped places, I'll leave that for the end of the season.
Cue the idiots ....... LMFAO!
I was at the game and what I saw was:
1. The final ball. It just wasn't there. It just never worked for us.
2. Giroud was well off his game. He has apologised for this, and must make amends in the next game, or run the risk of being labelled forever a big game failure.
3. Mertesacker was also off his game. He ventured too far out and lost too many challenges.
4. Ozil was ineffective. He kept passing sideways or backwards and kept the ball too long. This slowed our game and allowed Monaco to get back in position.
In the end we just went mad and left our defences wide open for the third.
I've got a few more games to go to before the end of the season, but if we don't beat Liverpool, I may just give 'A' Games a miss. I've seen us draw against Spurs and lose against Utd and Monaco this season so far. £66 a ticket for that isn't worth it.
I hope the £40 per ticket I've paid for the West Ham game delivers good value.
....will Burnley park this afternoon? It goes without saying that these teams come not to win, but to stop Arsenal playing, and in the process either hold on for a draw, or #$%$ a goal at the death to win it. To knock that into touch is to score a couple early in the match, before it settles into more and more buses being parked in the penalty area, and the usual slogging match trying to break it down. Ramsey is back though, and along with Sanchez it shouldn't turn into that.
Wenger still does not have the answers. Monreal has struggled as central defender and the pairing of Chambers-Mert would have been a lot better. Wenger seems blind to this. Good news is, this is not our only problem. Bad news is Swansea were the better more composed side for large parts of the game.
I don't think Wenger will find a way out of this one. Ozil is not the answer to our current problems and Giroud will only make them worse.
CHOMP CHOMP, MUNCH MUNCH ........ don't forget to BITE again, my little Geordie fishy wishy!