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I think people trying to downplay Man Utds game against QPR are wrong personally. What I saw was a team playing like it was a cup final, and I think they would have found a way to outscore anyone that day. If they play like that every week it will be just like Liverpool last season. Through dominating possession and fighting to win the ball back they made look QPR look clueless, although they did have a couple good moments on the counter, in the end QPR were fortunate not to concede 6 or 7.
I think its early but feel safe to say that their new signings look like the correct ones. Rojo looks like he will do very well in the prem. Di Maria is also made for the prem and linked up well with Rojo. Blind did everything Carrick does but better, and Herrera looks like the engine they have missed since Fletcher first got injured, except he has more technique/quality. Shaw still to come who was the best left back last season, Rafael made a big difference at RB and this formation meant more numbers in midfield, so less defensive work by Mata allowing him to do what he does best. I said before, Rooney doesnt like to be the main man as proved in the days of Tevez and Ronaldo, he excels when he has better players alongside him and I think well see a much more dangerous side once Falcao settles in and Di Maria starts to fulfill Van Gaals 'Robben Role'. The early signs are promising.
The joke has been on United for a while now but something tells me they will have the last laugh, top 4 minimum this season which means either Arsenal or Liverpool will have to go. Van Persies body language might be a worry but with the options they have they could be forgiven for not worrying/caring.
Nice and tanned and ready to go to the first derby game of the season. (see the new avatar)
Lets hope Wellbeck's confidence grows towards the Utd clash in November. My tickets are ordered for that one!
John the way I see it is that we can (and have to) analyze each game very much along the lines you did, looking at the positives (possession) and the negatives in ability to break opponents down as a result of slow ball movement from the back and individual errors (Flamini cost us a goal against City and Spurs - and yes I like him and his attitude and still prefer him over Arteta but not as much as last season, and we need a higher caliber DM as a starter).
But the fact remains that we are dropping points like a sieve. Man U, by some considered to have had a poor start is only 2 points behind us and Chelsea is running away quickly. They will probably beat us next week without too much trouble.
Our short comings don't seem new to this year, wanting to walk the ball into the net, conceding on set pieces, vulnerability to speedy opponents, good games followed by poor games, no game plan other than forced by injuries.
When I look at things in this context I think we are in pretty poor shape with little chance to expect major change.
The intelligence of a Cairns Cave Dweller....."EEERRRRHHHH! wat wos dat ?????
Last heard on the Arsenal board grunting an apology....
Friday 3rd 2014
Independent News; Article by Jack Pitt-Brookes.
Danny Welbeck felt a sense of vindication Wed. night after scoring his first hat-trick.........
Welbeck has scored 6 goals for club and country since £16 million move from Manchester. When asked about his goal scoring record Wed. night ...the England International said criticism didn't matter if they applied to his years playing on the wing of a four man midfield. " Nobody can really criticise my finishing because they don't see me playing in a forward position too often." Welbeck said " but now I am getting into those positions I want to be sticking the ball in the back of the net. Obviously people can say I've not scored enough goals. But stick the best striker on the wing in a four man midfield and see if they score goals........"
Kind of shoots your square headed thinking down in flames, doesn't it. But of course how silly of me to think that your kind will not twist that around to suit your own purposes. So lets be having it. Lets see you twist and squirm your way of that Butch the alcoholic brown family. and BTW I'll let the Man U board know as well OK? Save you the bother...... Feeling a bit sickened are we? Never mind a few more tins down your neck and you'llbegin to feel even worse...AAARRRRRHH! Less
- Reply to TheButchNemesis Oct 4, 2014 15:07
Old Granny Butch has always turned to Google and used Wiki in a vain attempt to argue her points and look remotely intelligent.
It's just such a shame that it's never fooled anybody, just like any of the long history of jackanory stories which she has come out with for the best part of a decade, for example, the 'chinning Lee Bowyer' episode and the numerous inconsistencies in what actually happened when she was spinning that little yarn.
All gob and idle threats, that's the oldest wooly woofter in Cairns for you.
Cue the 'geordie' comments in her bites! - LMFAO!!!
- Reply to The Alcoholic Brown Family Sep 1, 2014 10:22
I would be envious if Falcao went to Man U. Great signing for you. I believe Peligrini when he says a team needs at least 4 top quality strikers if they are to compete in the PL and CL.
I don't think anyone is claiming Welbeck does not have a chance to be a decent signing. Fact is the jury is still out on him. His stats have been abundantly analyzed and compared to Giroud's in the last 24 hours in various articles. The excuse he currently has for having unexciting stats is that he has been played out of position (?) and not gotten a regular run of play. Non of this takes away the fact that we don't know what we are buying in Welbeck and more importantly what Wenger thinks he bought. I believe Welbeck, to prove his advocates right needs a long run of games in the nr 9 spot, if Wenger sees him as a back-up to Sanogo and sees Sanchez as a nr 9 for CL and smaller opponents, Welbeck will be used similarly to the way he was used at Man U and thus IMO his stats are unlikely to explode to top striker level. Time will tell. To me it is a fact that Welbeck is a project at the moment and not the finished product and there for no one can say with meaningful certainty whether he was a good signing or not. I think we needed a better signing and they were available and I think we need more defensive cover as well. But lets give Welbeck time, or more importantly let's hope Wenger gives him a real chance and not a Campbell chance.
But be honest how much time do you think Chelsea fans will need to see if Costa will deliver? How much time did Man U fans need to see if RVP would deliver? Aguiro?
"Oh please!! 'On here', get it ON HERE and 'PICKED UP' "
First, why are you answering for "Baldrick"? Is that your ID too, as well as Jack S?
Whoever you claim to be, "Baldrick" didn't say 'on here', and even mentioned Beckham, who definitely isn't 'on here'.
If United weren't in control, does that mean Arsenal signed Welbeck without United's permission?
You have a one track record on here, blasting everything everyone posts about football because you're jealous of them, your knowledge of the game started and finished fifty years ago when you visited the North Bank .... once, and that's it.
They say there's no such thing as an ex-alcoholic, and you're living proof of that, and the fact your family and friends all dropped you shows what an #$%$ you are.
But don't leave, this place would be much duller without you to ridicule.
There was an article about Fellaini at first being deemed surplus to requirements and now seemingly back into the grace of Van Gaal. Van Gaal seems to have learned that you can not only have technically gifted players in the PL but that you also need physically imposing players. Matic has been huge for Chelsea.
Since the departure of Vieira and Gilberto we have never really had an impsing midfield presence let alone an intimidating DM. Arteta is neither a natural DM nor physically imposing and Flamini is running out of runway and not an imposing player. How come Wenger fails to see in 10 years what Van Gaal appears to realize inside of 10 games.
After the draw at West Brom, Van Gaal conceded that he may have to adapt his own philosophy a little as he continues to learn about English football.
'We have to look also for physical talents and maybe that's our problem,' said Van Gaal in explaining his decision to leave out Ander Herrera.
'I'm a coach who is always thinking about creative players but in England you also need physical bodies in your team and Fellaini is one of these.'
Its 4th place that Wenger will cling onto. He hopes. His real agenda is the CL. title. One he came close to or was robbed of which ever way you want to look at it. I think he is intent on pulling another rabbit out of his magic hat and hopefully nicking a win as L'pool did and Chelsea a while back when no one expected them to. Its the only title Wenger wants to finish his career with. Don't hold your breath, but stranger things have happened in football. As Manure can attest to when they pinched two goals in the last minute against Bayern, to win it.
So libel, wasting police time as well as the offence you have been reported for. Do you have screenshots never mind now that Police are involved they will request all my yahoo posts , as they will yours.
We had better not post to each other again. Keep larfin
Wilshere has been injured since, what, October? Until he has a good stretch of games but no improvement I maintain he has bags of potential. Until his latest injury, his form had been decent, though inconsistent. He looked like he had improved on last year. He's also only just turned 23, so he's got plenty of time to sort himself out. I don't think you can really write off a footballer's career until at least late 20s and even then some players make extraordinary leaps in the space of just a few months. But with his profile from an early age, I accept Wilshere really is running out of time to keep himself fit, show some form and actually develop as a player.
I will agree several things with anyone:
1) he's clearly a stupid little khunt, though that's basically par for a PL footballer
2) if he keeps getting injured potential, etc is entirely meaningless. RVP managed multiple seasons with injury after injury, but I don't think we have the patience for that with Wilshere.
3) he shouldn't be walking into the England team just because he's Wilshere, a press darling and has "potential". He does actually have to do something.
But I've seen nothing to discourage my belief that (a) he is highly talented and has all the right attributes to be the best English midfielder over the next decade (I actually think Wilshere and Henderson could be a formidable partnership and (b) his skills are almost unique amongst English footballers where we have an overflow of physical grafters, which makes him a footballer of the future rather than of the past.
All that being said, his attitude stinks and his rate of development over the last few years is extremely disappointing.
I guess the reason this board is so empty is partly because there is nothing new to say about Arsenal that has not been said for the last 7 or 8 years.
It can happen you have a poor game, although it happens far too often to a team with out talent, but with a few leaders on the pitch last night does not happen. To me we lacked leaders more than anything, Leaders would have stopped this running around like a headless chicken and taken a 2-0 or 2-1 defeat.
We have too many players who go missing in the big games and to me Giroud has always been one of them. He is ok against smaller teams but he has very little technique and control.
I thought Ozil was not as bad as the press made him out and many of his passes got wasted by his team mates, but he will never be defensively what Sanchez is. He is a liability for a team with weak defending.
I thought he had a pretty good game and was much more threatening than Giroud normally is.
Blind really impressed me and surprised me. If he keeps this level up Man U will be a force.