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Guess this was a fair result. Not impressed with the way this game was managed by Wenger. Why not give Campbell a chance at some point? Three small players like Carzorla, Rosicky and Alexis where never likely to bother the Southampton defense. 4th will be harder than many think and I still don't think we will finish 4th this season. And the bad news is that we didn't lose this game in defensive midfield. We were just out played by a better prepared side and more disciplined side.
I hope everyone had a relaxing and enjoyable Christmas with family and friends. I am planning to keep January dry. Not only does my liver need to rest, but my wallet took a big hit throughout December too!
No doubt many would have been delighted, bemused and frustrated in equal measure by their teams performances over the festive period.
The mid-season sales open tomorrow. I for one can't wait to see what efforts are made to strengthen our team.
4th and progress in the CL will only be possible with at least two new signings.
The only thing that's going to shift Wenger and his thinking, is if Tottenham knock us out of a place in the CL. And that is not as far away as some may think. A sobering thought for many, including the Arsenal board, who just might sit up and pay attention for once. BTW A Happy New Year to you and everyone. BTW again what was AW thinking of when he had 3 or 4 five foot 'nothings' up front against a six foot plus defence at S'hampton?
Well the early news reports Podolski is off to Milan on loan.
My guess it is with an option to buy at the end of the season.
In my humble opinion, this just made our squad weaker.
Happy New Year John and those few left on this board. I think Podolski makes us weaker in theory only. Wenger refused to play him and even chose Sanogo ahead of him.
Personally I don't think Wenger will do what it takes in the window and on the pitch. I also think he is burning out Sanchez by playing him way too much. A few weeks ago Wenger admitted Sanchez is playing in the red zone, yet with the exception of 1 CL game he has not rested him. This could come back to haunt us. Also when Ozil returns we will be even weaker defensively. So my prediction that we finish outside of the top 4 still stands.
We don't even have the budget to buy the players we need. IMO we need Schneiderlin and a top quality CB.
TBH even with our injured players fit we didn't impress.
I agree with Jacks that it was a nobrainer that we were not going to trouble Southampton throwing crosses into the box to Sanchez, Carzorla and Rosicky. I guess even Campbell has more physical presence than those three yet Campbell is an other player Wenger gives no minutes to get used to the PL.
no sign of butch the cairns mongrel utd supporter when he's needed to explain how Manure cant win a trick with the Dutch 'master' ARRRRHHHHH! Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha h aha....oh dear pmsl so much. What was that?? Van who?? AARRRHHH! ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha........Rickety Rooney! AARRHHH! ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.....oh please!!!
Now Govinda, if that didn't satisfy you watching Arsene Wengers team give Hughes and his Stoke bully boys a good spanking, sending them back to where they came from looking like well slapped #$%$ They were chasing shadows the whole game and couldn't believe they looked like wax statues we were playing against
The A hole Butchy will also be shyteing her knickers to hear that there's three geordie pals of mine currently 'down under' doing some building in Cairns, the plot thickens...and you gotta larf, really, you do!
The way we are playing at the moment, I've pencilled in a win for us at City. Foolish? Well you might have said that had I predicted a 3 nil win against Stoke. But seriously, its no great challenge the way city are playing and it would be no shock. Defeat? Well that wouldn't be a shock either now would it? Best of luck boys.
Any complaints after knocking the champions over today. Told you so but its getting like talking to a brick wall on here. Must get back to the Arsenal Club site, its shyte here.
I must say that in Arsenal's most productive period of outstanding form and performances of individuals, the silence on this board is baffling; to say nothing of the once loud protestations about the team and Arsene Wenger when everything they did brought some kind bleat. Now with the acclaim from the media ringing in our ears, it seems that Govinda and all have been struck dumb. Probably with astonishment that all their dire warnings of doom at the Emirates, have come to nothing. Meanwhile I'll just enjoy a chuckle at the prophets of doom. As for you John I cant believe you of all people have nothing to say!!??
Perhaps they were probably just Mancrapper Ushyted fans pretending to be Arsenal fans.
I'm sure Le Poof and that soft old fairy from Cairns had a couple of ID's where they tried to pose as Arsenal supporters so that they could stir the shyte in these forums. The pair of them would spout more shyte about clubs like Arsenal and Chelsea than they ever could over Mancrapper Ushyted.
Both have gone, driven away and history now, so loads of LMFAO over that one!
Bali/Indonesia - a place where they happily execute foreigners via a firing squad for drug smuggling yet turn a blind eye to stuff like kiddy fiddling.
Yeah, sounds like paradise, if you're an old nonce.
You'd better be careful what you do over there, you old woofter
To be honest Jack, I have been busy at work and the board has become, lets say, scarce of any meaningful or fun debates and discussions.
A few things have happened which I was delighted with.
Hector Bellerin is developing really well. He has had some great games and will provide Wenger with a real headache when Jenkinson comes back, because he's doing very well too.
Coquelin had a brilliant game against City, which was in itself a great result.
I'm keeping everything crossed that Paulista will be as brilliant for us as he has been for Villareal this season.
He looks like the perfect remedy for those games where Mertesacker is just too slow.
I am up at the Emirates for the Villa game on Sunday and have already got my tickets for the Monaco game too. Looking forward to the run in now.
Wilshere has been injured since, what, October? Until he has a good stretch of games but no improvement I maintain he has bags of potential. Until his latest injury, his form had been decent, though inconsistent. He looked like he had improved on last year. He's also only just turned 23, so he's got plenty of time to sort himself out. I don't think you can really write off a footballer's career until at least late 20s and even then some players make extraordinary leaps in the space of just a few months. But with his profile from an early age, I accept Wilshere really is running out of time to keep himself fit, show some form and actually develop as a player.
I will agree several things with anyone:
1) he's clearly a stupid little khunt, though that's basically par for a PL footballer
2) if he keeps getting injured potential, etc is entirely meaningless. RVP managed multiple seasons with injury after injury, but I don't think we have the patience for that with Wilshere.
3) he shouldn't be walking into the England team just because he's Wilshere, a press darling and has "potential". He does actually have to do something.
But I've seen nothing to discourage my belief that (a) he is highly talented and has all the right attributes to be the best English midfielder over the next decade (I actually think Wilshere and Henderson could be a formidable partnership and (b) his skills are almost unique amongst English footballers where we have an overflow of physical grafters, which makes him a footballer of the future rather than of the past.
All that being said, his attitude stinks and his rate of development over the last few years is extremely disappointing.
bad result for us but the way we played we didn't deserve more IMO.
Since this board seems dead, I will spare myself the typing of what we could have tried to do to improve the second half after a poor first half.
I still think 4th is out of reach for us.
A few seasons ago we never thought we would be talking about Wilshire this way. About his potential etc. We expected that by now the talking would be about his actual game rather than his potential.
He should no longer get a free ride and for the moment, even if he is fit, I don't see his place in the starting 11.
The other problem Arsenal have, IMO, is that we have too many players that have similar attributes. Good technique, easily ran of the ball, small physique, not particularly pacy, preferring to play in the middle of the park.
IMO, we can only really play with a maximum of 2 such players at a time. If you consider 4 defenders and 1 DM that leaves room (ideally) for 2 small technical players, a striker and two quick wide players.
In fact I don't even think there is space for Ozil in our starting 11.
At the moment I would argue for Sanchez-Giroud-Walcott up front and Bellerin - Mert - Cos - Monreal or Gibbs in the back with Coquelin as DM.
This leaves 2 places for centrally functioning midfielders and to me on current form Cazorla is a shoe in leaving Ramsey, Wilshire, Rosicky, Ozil, Ox. When all fit my second choice would be Ox since he has pace which you need in today's game IMO.
I guess the reason this board is so empty is partly because there is nothing new to say about Arsenal that has not been said for the last 7 or 8 years.
It can happen you have a poor game, although it happens far too often to a team with out talent, but with a few leaders on the pitch last night does not happen. To me we lacked leaders more than anything, Leaders would have stopped this running around like a headless chicken and taken a 2-0 or 2-1 defeat.
We have too many players who go missing in the big games and to me Giroud has always been one of them. He is ok against smaller teams but he has very little technique and control.
I thought Ozil was not as bad as the press made him out and many of his passes got wasted by his team mates, but he will never be defensively what Sanchez is. He is a liability for a team with weak defending.