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- FABONGRASSS FABONGRASSS Apr 22, 2014 17:58 Flag
Moyes didn't even get a chance to put his stamp on the club. He didn't even get a fair stab at a summer transfer window.
Those #$%$ American chest belt wearers run the club for the sake of the share index, not for football.
Ferguson would have been outed in his first season too if he were in Moyes position, having finished ELEVENTH that year!
- FABONGRASSS FABONGRASSS Apr 18, 2014 17:44 Flag
I think Wenger faces an extremely tough task. Hopefully an FA cup win will help. It will certainly put an end to the trophyless period and the constant reminder of that.
You never know, if Ozil starts brightly next season, if that supposed new striker is found, or if the ones we have really begin to shine, if more moral boosting signings are made, producing another Ozil effect, if Wenger is still in charge, perhaps Arsenal will enjoy real success. Perhaps Arsenes Arsenal will finally reach the dizzying heights, invincible like, again.
This season promised so much. I think Wenger was a hairs breadth away from realising every Gooners dreams myself. All the lack of tactical nuance is over rated IMO. Arsenal beat Barca and Fergusons United when they were flying, all those years ago. Tacticians were around then too, i believe.
- FABONGRASSS FABONGRASSS Apr 18, 2014 17:36 Flag
I don't dissagree that more depth to the squad would be welcome,however, if the team had enjoyed more luck, injury wise, those points would barely be raised. Obvious i know, but, take Lpool for example, if Gerard was out for most of the season, crucially, towards the end say, and Suarez too, were would Lpool now? Certainly not atop the Prem and no doubt, questions would be raised about there lack of quality in depth too. Wenger has tried to sign strikers, that is well documented, none of the quality needed have been either available, able, or willing to sign. Top quality strikers are few and far between and every club wishes to sign the same guys. Arsenal were also unlucky that Sanogo was injured so early on. The guy looks promising, and who knows what he would have achieved if he too enjoyed better health. Perhaps the need for a striker question would also have fallen away.
- FABONGRASSS FABONGRASSS Apr 18, 2014 11:53 Flag
Wenger has shown in the past that he is prepared to listen to other members regarding playing style etc. Tony Adams has told the story of Wenger wishing to change the defensive style in his early days at Arsenal only for Adams to ask why a winning formula should be changed. Wenger listened and things stayed as they were. Wenger certainly is not solely in charge of transfer dealings, sure, he may have the last say in who he wants brought in, but that does not mean he is the sole person dealing with the activity. The fact is, he isn't.
I totally agree that the manager is responsible for the frame of mind of the players. Wenger has said he kept Ramsey back from playing in games in front of the Emirates crowd because of the negative attitude towards Aaron. I think half the reason Wenger moved on many players in the past had more to do with the mindset of the players, and indeed that of the fans, than with the ability of the players. I think Arsenal have suffered greatly through the weight of expectation since the move to the Emirates. The Invincibles reached a level that was hard to reciprocate. I always have thought that the teams Wenger gave us, with Fabregas, Van Persie, Diaby, Nasri, Arshavin, Flamini, Adebayor etc, were quality. Unfortunately injury hampered those squads hugely and the move to the Emirates also weighed. The years went by without trophies, the unrest grew, the negative psychological feelings took root. This has been Wengers undoing of late IMO. The press and pundits predicted the downfall of Arsenal from day one. Is it any wonder that the Arsenal lads suffered psychologically? The Lpool man says in the interview he believes confidence is crucially affected when only 5% unstable.
Confidence is hard gained, and easily lost. The argument for Wenger calling an end to his career, to me, cocerns one point only. Can Wenger instill the confidence needed in the team for future glory, or not.
Wenger and the lads have come in for stick since their largely predicted fall from the perch of the Prem, and rightly so. The reasons as to why the demise has happened are much debated. The manager is clueless, the players have no heart, injuries, etc.
Liverpool on the other hand now sit atop the Prem. Rogers is the best thing since sliced bread, tactically astute, the team wonderful, the football great, the players of a better calibre than that at Arsenal.
However, ask the Pool players what is the reason behind their success and there has been much talk of the teams sports psychologist. A big interview appeared in The Daily Mail today with the guy. He has also been credited with being the force behind the English cycling success. The guy admits to not knowing a thing about playing football or riding a bike.
I have always thought Arsenals recant failings have been largely down to a lack of confidence. I believe their recent demise was more down to this, than any other reason. I believe Arsenal failed, because everyone expected them to fail. This team looked great earlier in the season, when content and confident, they out played Lpool, they were top of the Prem for many weeks.
Mourinho is a trained psychologist BTW, and look at the success he has enjoyed.
This Arsenal team are good enough to win the Prem.
They, and their fans, just need to believe it a little more.
Dig out the Mail interview. It's an interesting read.
- FABONGRASSS FABONGRASSS Apr 17, 2014 17:56 Flag
I like Podolski, but, from what i recall he had a habit of disappearing. I agree that players need time to find form when coming back from an injury and i hope Podolski shines during the run in however Wenger was caught between whether leaving the guy on the pitch, even though he was ineffectual, or leaving him on, in the hope he became effective during the game.
- FABONGRASSS FABONGRASSS Apr 17, 2014 05:23 Flag
Podolski was pretty awful whenever he appeared earlier in the season. I imagine that is why he wasn't given too much playing time.
What a remarkable season Palace are having. It looks as though they are going to be playing in the Prem next season after a great win against Everton, helping Arsenal to a CL place along the way (hopefully). And to think, Palace were nearly closed down not so long ago, thanks to that muppet Simon posey terrible hair do large mouth.
Pullis in, Wenger out?
- FABONGRASSS FABONGRASSS Apr 16, 2014 18:08 Flag
Was the demise of Arsenals title challenge down to a lack of effort on the part of the players? Was it bad tactics from the manager?
Or rather, was it a lack of confidence, a lack of playing staff, and a weighty expectancy that the team would falter?
- FABONGRASSS FABONGRASSS Apr 11, 2014 07:21 Flag
On the contrary, i presume nothing at all. Well, apart from the fact that you will keep making a pr*t out of yourself.
- FABONGRASSS FABONGRASSS Apr 10, 2014 11:51 Flag
Of course they did Rikki. Of course they did.
I presume no quotes are forth coming to back up either the views of the journalist in question, or the views you believe to be true. Now, there's a surprise.
- FABONGRASSS FABONGRASSS Apr 10, 2014 11:34 Flag
The article states that "Arsenal players believe that manager Arsène Wenger’s refusal to work on the opposition has cost them a shot at the Premier League title this season.'
How does this journalist know that Arsenal players believe that?
He likely has no idea whatsoever, and neither do you or i. Unless of course, you can show quotes from the Arsenal players stating such things.
Can you do that Rikki???
(cue much bull,i presume).
- FABONGRASSS FABONGRASSS Apr 10, 2014 06:45 Flag
' Telegraph' - some journo filling page space, wishing to have a dig at Arsenal, plucking stories out of thin air.