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- FABONGRASSS FABONGRASSS 4 hours ago Flag
Wenger has shown in the past that he is prepared to listen to other members regarding playing style etc. Tony Adams has told the story of Wenger wishing to change the defensive style in his early days at Arsenal only for Adams to ask why a winning formula should be changed. Wenger listened and things stayed as they were. Wenger certainly is not solely in charge of transfer dealings, sure, he may have the last say in who he wants brought in, but that does not mean he is the sole person dealing with the activity. The fact is, he isn't.
I totally agree that the manager is responsible for the frame of mind of the players. Wenger has said he kept Ramsey back from playing in games in front of the Emirates crowd because of the negative attitude towards Aaron. I think half the reason Wenger moved on many players in the past had more to do with the mindset of the players, and indeed that of the fans, than with the ability of the players. I think Arsenal have suffered greatly through the weight of expectation since the move to the Emirates. The Invincibles reached a level that was hard to reciprocate. I always have thought that the teams Wenger gave us, with Fabregas, Van Persie, Diaby, Nasri, Arshavin, Flamini, Adebayor etc, were quality. Unfortunately injury hampered those squads hugely and the move to the Emirates also weighed. The years went by without trophies, the unrest grew, the negative psychological feelings took root. This has been Wengers undoing of late IMO. The press and pundits predicted the downfall of Arsenal from day one. Is it any wonder that the Arsenal lads suffered psychologically? The Lpool man says in the interview he believes confidence is crucially affected when only 5% unstable.
Confidence is hard gained, and easily lost. The argument for Wenger calling an end to his career, to me, cocerns one point only. Can Wenger instill the confidence needed in the team for future glory, or not.
Wenger and the lads have come in for stick since their largely predicted fall from the perch of the Prem, and rightly so. The reasons as to why the demise has happened are much debated. The manager is clueless, the players have no heart, injuries, etc.
Liverpool on the other hand now sit atop the Prem. Rogers is the best thing since sliced bread, tactically astute, the team wonderful, the football great, the players of a better calibre than that at Arsenal.
However, ask the Pool players what is the reason behind their success and there has been much talk of the teams sports psychologist. A big interview appeared in The Daily Mail today with the guy. He has also been credited with being the force behind the English cycling success. The guy admits to not knowing a thing about playing football or riding a bike.
I have always thought Arsenals recant failings have been largely down to a lack of confidence. I believe their recent demise was more down to this, than any other reason. I believe Arsenal failed, because everyone expected them to fail. This team looked great earlier in the season, when content and confident, they out played Lpool, they were top of the Prem for many weeks.
Mourinho is a trained psychologist BTW, and look at the success he has enjoyed.
This Arsenal team are good enough to win the Prem.
They, and their fans, just need to believe it a little more.
Dig out the Mail interview. It's an interesting read.
- FABONGRASSS FABONGRASSS 22 hours ago Flag
I like Podolski, but, from what i recall he had a habit of disappearing. I agree that players need time to find form when coming back from an injury and i hope Podolski shines during the run in however Wenger was caught between whether leaving the guy on the pitch, even though he was ineffectual, or leaving him on, in the hope he became effective during the game.
- FABONGRASSS FABONGRASSS Apr 17, 2014 05:23 Flag
Podolski was pretty awful whenever he appeared earlier in the season. I imagine that is why he wasn't given too much playing time.
What a remarkable season Palace are having. It looks as though they are going to be playing in the Prem next season after a great win against Everton, helping Arsenal to a CL place along the way (hopefully). And to think, Palace were nearly closed down not so long ago, thanks to that muppet Simon posey terrible hair do large mouth.
Pullis in, Wenger out?
- FABONGRASSS FABONGRASSS Apr 16, 2014 18:08 Flag
Was the demise of Arsenals title challenge down to a lack of effort on the part of the players? Was it bad tactics from the manager?
Or rather, was it a lack of confidence, a lack of playing staff, and a weighty expectancy that the team would falter?
- FABONGRASSS FABONGRASSS Apr 11, 2014 07:21 Flag
On the contrary, i presume nothing at all. Well, apart from the fact that you will keep making a pr*t out of yourself.
- FABONGRASSS FABONGRASSS Apr 10, 2014 11:51 Flag
Of course they did Rikki. Of course they did.
I presume no quotes are forth coming to back up either the views of the journalist in question, or the views you believe to be true. Now, there's a surprise.
- FABONGRASSS FABONGRASSS Apr 10, 2014 11:34 Flag
The article states that "Arsenal players believe that manager Arsène Wenger’s refusal to work on the opposition has cost them a shot at the Premier League title this season.'
How does this journalist know that Arsenal players believe that?
He likely has no idea whatsoever, and neither do you or i. Unless of course, you can show quotes from the Arsenal players stating such things.
Can you do that Rikki???
(cue much bull,i presume).
- FABONGRASSS FABONGRASSS Apr 10, 2014 06:45 Flag
' Telegraph' - some journo filling page space, wishing to have a dig at Arsenal, plucking stories out of thin air.
- FABONGRASSS FABONGRASSS Apr 8, 2014 20:25 Flag
Cont...it looked as if all that was in the past.
I think Wenger may well call it a day at the end of this contract and that, to me, would be a great shame and a sorry end for the greatest manager the club has ever had.
- FABONGRASSS FABONGRASSS Apr 8, 2014 20:22 Flag
I like this squad of players. I think it has great potential and it has been wholly put together by Wenger. There is room for improvement, and it would seem at this stage that the forward position needs a touch of real class, but, would the situation seem the same if Walcott was fit? Or Ozil? Wilshere? Or Ramsey? Or, if Sanogo had enjoyed a better start at Arsenal? We simply do not know. We do know that four of those five have proven to be great assets. Giroud has come in for much criticism of late and i fully understand why, but i recall both Walcott and Ramsey in the line of fire in recent years and i am a great believer that you judge a player when they are confident. Giroud looked fine earlier this season IMO.
It is very true that the squad should be able to rotate and still produce, however, i think Arsenal suffer greatly confidence wise and i think the loss of players added to the expectation that Arsenal would fail at this time of year has affected the team. Confidence is a thing that is hard to gain and extremely easy to lose and Arsenal, these days, seem to lose that confidence extremely easily. If there is one point which makes me question whether Wenger is the right man for the job, then this would be that question, does his being at the helm instill a lack of confidence in the players?
I think the squad is there. I think the squad are good enough to win the title. I think they are certainly as good as Lpool who could well lift the title this season and gain all the plaudits, yet, the big difference between Arsenal and Lpool to me is that Lpool have their best players, for the most part, fit. Arsenal do not.
Vermalean is an extremely capable player for example, but, he does not have the same understanding as Kosc does with Mertesaker. A big difference.
All in all i am gutted to see the season go down the pan, due to injuries IMO, again. I am also gutted that the knives are out for Wenger again, when, earlier in the season, it looked as if all th
- FABONGRASSS FABONGRASSS Apr 8, 2014 07:45 Flag
I think the reason for our recent poor showings is more down to a change of playing staff forced by injury than any other reason. Walcott and Ramsey were hugely missed but i believe Kosceilny being out is even more of a blow. The defence consisted of Monreal and Vermalean on the left side against Everton, a brand new half to our defensive unit. It is no coincidence that the team plays less well when changes to the playing staff are enforced. All this Wenger blaming is the easy option IMO. No manager can instill the same confidence into a newly formed unit as was enjoyed by a unit more used to playing together, week in, week out.
Ferguson himself said that every season depends upon the injuries suffered by the squad. I agree.
- FABONGRASSS FABONGRASSS Apr 7, 2014 06:15 Flag
Arsenal have spent a huge some of money these past couple of seasons and i am sure, with the new finances only just beginning to come into play, they will spend more. Ozil was bought instead of Suarez. There is absolutely no gurantee that Suarez would have produced at Arsenal this season had he arrived.
Diaby has been blighted by injury, but who was to know that would occur? It is frustrating, for all concerned, but don't go beating Wenger over the head about that. Bendtner has great potential. Unfortunately he is a prize #$%$.
We have no idea what Higuain would have or wouldn't have done had a higher bid gone in. All we know is what he has stated since, and that is that he wanted to join Napoli, and that makes perfect sense too.
To claim Wenger does not 'work the system to his advantage' is beyond my comprehension, as to me , he is renowned for doing just that. The price tag of a player is no guarantee of the quality.
Arsenal are beginning to have far greater cash available than they have done, well, ever. It will be spent, but players have to be available to buy.
- FABONGRASSS FABONGRASSS Apr 6, 2014 21:20 Flag
You write that no top manager would persist with Diaby and yet that is an unprovable statement. If Diaby was performing as well as say Veiria or Yaya Toure for example, when fit, i would bet just about any manager worth his salt would be loathe to give up on the guy.
You write that no top manager would have signed Kallstrom and indeed Wenger himself stated that he would not have, but time had run out. Top players are thin on the ground. Is that a hard concept to grasp? Same goes for the Bendtner situation BTW. The Higuain deal was not at all 'in the bag', the player has since said that he wanted to sign for Napoli, ahead of Arsenal, seemingly because of the clubs links with Maradona. Arsenal bid the amount needed to spark the clause in the Suarez contract, the Lpool chairman has since admitted that there indeed WAS a clause but that he didn't think it would stand up in court (or something like that).I think i am correct when i write that Man Utd have never payed £50M for a player, why do you seem to think Arsenal should have done so?
The Wenger knives are out again. The situation is frustrating, but a lot of #$%$ is being written IMO.
- FABONGRASSS FABONGRASSS Apr 6, 2014 18:54 Flag
Wenger is honest about the performances, he has said the team were poor and Everton were deserved of the win. He also says he believes the results have a lot to do with a lack of confidence, and who can argue with that? Giroud looked absolutely fine earlier in the seasons, headlines along the lines of 'who needs a striker?' adorned the back pages. This team are good enough to thump Everton and Lpool and City and Chelski. Look at ManUseless, they are reigning champions and yet the same players have looked like second rate chumps for the most part.
Blaming the manager is easy. Yes, he is to blame, and he will take the blame, but that does not solve the situation. Wenger IS a top top manager.
Lastly, Wenger has tried to sign forwards, but, like others, has found that quality forwards do not grow on trees. Chelski are in exactly the same position with regards to the striking options.