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I think you are confused. You appeared to reply to my post in which I advocated to keep dreaming, with a ramble about the team disappointing and me eating my words about Giroud. Not sure how either the team or Giroud where on topic.
Perhaps it is best you start a new thread about the team and Giroud's qualities?
I have never seen a team that had any authority in which players are bought and sold. For Arsenal it is Wenger who who makes the final decision during the transfer window, so it is him who make us happy or sad. The team can only make us happy or disappoint us during the season.
And I am happy for you that you are capable of seeing Giroud as a world class striker. That's what dream is all about.
Never stop dreaming my friend!
Common sense dictates Wenger will disappoint us in the transfer window, yet I keep dreaming till he wakes me up August 31st.
Loved seeing Barca getting a transfer ban for 2 transfer periods. In the past Spanish and Italian clubs appeared immune with respect to breaching rules.
Now all we need is a strict enforcement of the FFP rules and we could look good.
Guess Cesc won't be going to Man U.
I would settle for Mandzukic coming to Arsenal this summer. Rather than some of the "young talents" being mentioned in the press for the moment. and maybe Remy as 2nd striker and leave Giroud as 3rd or free to go.
I guess that raises the question of Wenger's tactical astuteness. I believed and advocated before the Chelsea game that we should have employed that "easy" tactic when we visited Chelsea. They needed the win more than we did. INstead we lose 6-0. I think there is no shame to employ that tactic when on the road or when playing a better team. It would have been nice play Moureen with his own negative tactics.
I don't have a soft spot for Man U. Honestly I thought they would lose. We at Arsenal remember that 80% possession means nothing.
I have a soft spot for the PL vs other leagues.
Bayern missed Tiago a lot last night and will miss his replacement Sweinsteiger in Munich. I think Man U have a great chance and I hope they win and go through in Munich.
Just because a few of their supporters are Arsenal haters doesn't mean we have to lower ourselves to the same level.
Remember in football the best team doesn't always win. Not too long ago a vastly superior Barca lost to Chelsea and a vastly superior Bayern lost to Chelsea in the final as well. Man U can do it and this would be great for the PL and the image of the PL which indirectly benefits Arsenal and every PL fan IMO.
No matter how one twists or turns it, IMO not too many people should have expected United to win or draw. Their result is a lot better than ours no matter what the reason. Why should we be jealous or worried about that? We don't compete with them in the CL anymore. Big deal.
TBH I thought it was great result for Man U obviously much better than what we managed. I for one hope they knock Bayern out. I am not like most on here who hate Arsenal or Man U so much that I always want them to lose. In addition the better the PL does in the CL the more points the PL gtes which might mean we get to hold onto 4 CL places. We lose that 4th spot and Arsenal can forget about CL football.
I also love Rooney's dive getting Sweinsteiger a red card. Bayern out smarted or out "experienced" us with all their theatrics and now they were on the receiving end of it. I hope Man U knock them out.
To some extend we did shoot ourselves in the foot. On the other hand who knows where we could have ended up. That is why for me we will have 3 pressing priorities we need to address before the WC:
1. nr 1 priority should be to get to the bottom of our training methods and medical staff expertise. It is hard to imagine these two sides of our club don't contribute to our ridiculously poor injury record. If we did shout ourselves in the foot, the first bullet went in this category. It is hard to imagine for me that with Walcott, Ramsey, Wilshire and Ozil available we would not have gained a few more points.
our players are too often injured for it to be a coincidence and our injury prognosis our too faulty to be bad luck.
Ramsey out 27 December. Initial prognosis: back in 3 weeks on the 31st of Jan it was 6 weeks.
Ox: out the first game of the season initial diagnosis six weeks, he was out for 5 months.
Ozil: out against Bayern, initial diagnosis 3 weeks, still out
Podolski: Injured hamstring before the PL started, initial diagnosis 3 weeks, was out for 4 months.
It does not seem we have a proper grip on why our players get injured and how long the recovery should be.
Unless we manage to get to the bottom of this and manage to keep our squad intact (mostly) we will always be "light" comes this time of the season.
2. second priority we need a top striker with pace
3. third priority we need another pacey box-to-box Flamini with leadership abilities. Arteta was great but doesn't have the legs anymore.
3a. We need a pacey left winger. Draxler!!!!
- Govinda Govinda Mar 31, 2014 09:33 Flag
The only good thing about Moyes failing (if he fails- remember Rodgers took a season to put his stamp on the way Pool play) would be that the next manager would not follow SAF but Moyes. This can make a big difference if you ask me. I would rather be compared to Moyes than to SAF the legend.
But, as you say, if Moyes stays and fails next season (having spend a small fortune in the process), this would be quite a disaster.
PS I don't like Van Gaal and think he is over rated, but he has won his share of trophies in 3 different leagues and in Holland they believe it is certain he will go to Spurs, if he does well for them and takes to the PL quickly, it might get very crowded at the top of the PL.
- Govinda Govinda Mar 31, 2014 07:35 Flag
To me Everton are the most impressive team in the PL ahead of Liverpool. Sure Rogers has masterminded a fantastic turn around at Liverpool in 2 years time but he had a better squad when he arrived and invested wisely over the summer. Everton on the other hand lost one of their best players and have no budget to speak of, yet Martinez has raised them to a whole different level of play within one season. To me that is manager of the year material.
This is not a dig at Moyes, but at the moment Man U are playing the way Everton used to play, and Everton are playing at a level and sophistication they never reached under him. This must be tough for Moyes, not only does he have a fail for his first year at Man U but if he blames the squad and says not even SAF could do better than he is doing, how does he explain Matinez doing a much better job than he has ever done at Everton?
I am very worried indeed by our game against Everton.
- Govinda Govinda Mar 30, 2014 09:19 Flag
I am happy with the result, not so much in the way in which it came about. City's goal was a carbon copy of the goals we ran into against Chelsea and Liverpool in the both Sagna and Gibbs were caught too far up the pitch and with the loss of possession that gave City all the space they need. Neither Sagna nor Gibbs made it back before the goal was scored.
We could have won this game and I guess that is the good news, but we lacked a lot in the final 3rd. Wish we would have given Ox and Sanogo 20 minutes instead of 10.
If we don't lose to Everton we look good for 4th and our run in will now be easier (on paper).
- Govinda Govinda Mar 26, 2014 13:12 Flag
Although I don't rate it, I won't argue there was no improvement in results if we win the FA cup. I am more worried looking to next season, seeing how well Rodgers does and assuming City and Chelsea will get better.
If Wengers stays there is always the risk he will be loyal to average players like Giroud and Arteta and continue to play central midfielders like Rosicky and Cazorla out wide. This will likely lead to the same pattern we have seen over the last 9 years.
I hope Wenger will show us, like he did (in a way) last summer, that he is willing to spend money and I hope he wakes up to the realization that there is no shame in buying 3 ready to contribute players. Ozil, even if he faded, had a huge impact on the squad. Imagine what a world class striker and winger (Draxler) and a tough midfielder (Lars Bender?) could do for us.
Even top teams like Bayer, Barca and Real continue to strengthen every season despite winning trophies.
If we don't strengthen but just bring in bodies we will go backwards. To me we can not count on Giroud, and Arteta to win us the big games. We need Suarez instead of a Giroud and a Yaya instead of an Arteta. Neither can we continue to play central midfielders without devastating pace out wide - they constantly drift to the center and leave huge spaces out wide for the opponents to explore.
- Govinda Govinda Mar 26, 2014 12:50 Flag
It is hard to disagree with his assessment and I sort of agreed with his Wilshire assessment. I do think in Wilshire's case it is a combo of many injuries and no leaders or role models to teach him the trade.
But how can we build on the Ramsey's, Theo's, and Wilshere's if we know they won't stay healthy? No doubt these guys are good players when fit but you can't be good or develop as a young player when you spend large parts of your careers out injured.
Scholes wasn't too biased either as he ripped into Man U as well.
- Govinda Govinda Mar 26, 2014 07:05 Flag
Look Fab I will try to stay as optimistic and supportive as I can until the end of the year. And yes the fact we came from 0-1 down to go up 2-1 was good, but to me at this level, and at this time of the season, we can't "would have, could have, should have" and "unlucky" we simply have to get results against these types of opponents. Liverpool and City win convincingly all the time. You want to compete for the title, you need to to win these games and to win them with this team that we played yesterday.
(It hurt that my beloved Flamini was the one with the own goal.)
But the wheels are coming of, as they do each season at some point. The players on the pitch today should have been good enough to be able to win this game. No excuse. I'll refrain from further comment for now as I don't want to unload my frustration on this forum and will take a timeout before I comment further.
- Govinda Govinda Mar 25, 2014 09:08 Flag
In all fairness, it seems to me that even if Wenger realized what game Moureen was playing it was over befrore he could really respond IMO. You go down 1-0 to a Moureen team playing at home inside 5 minutes and it is all over you go down 2-0 inside 8 minutes, there is not much left to save if you ask me.
Sure you can try to prevent the 6-0 by closing up shop but what does that really do?
It seems to me, he should have brought on Flamini as left back when Gibbs went of rather than Thomas V. Flamini has been a good left back and is more of leader and we needed a leader. But in the end this would have been rearranging deck chairs on the Titanic if you ask me.
The big mistake IMO was the starting line-up and was playing too attacking from the get go. I had hoped, and even posted, that we try to sit back and defend and see if we can hit them on the break. A win was more important to Moureen than to us IMO. Had we defended as a team, Chelsea would have had to play on our half in less space and would have had to take more risks. It doesn't look pretty but we are capable of doing it. We did it against Spurs and have done it more often this season once we take a lead. It plays to our strengths with regard our defenders and our lack of pace at the moment.