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- Reply to Ref, It Was Me! Apr 1, 2014 21:57Ref, It Was Me! Ref, It Was Me! Apr 2, 2014 09:53 Flag
Isn't it funny that 1-1 draw at home is being hailed as a great result for Man U, which shows you how far their stock have fallen in recent years. I always remember reading that in Europe, a team need a lead going into the next match if playing at home first, as things stand Bayern are in full control and will be playing in front of their own fans in the return leg, a nice little advantage to have. They don't have to go chasing the game as they are through to the Semis on the away goal rule. All they have to do in the return leg is retain possession of the ball in their own half of the pitch and we know they are excellent at that, and invite Man U to come at them leaving acres of space to exploit on the counter, lol!
- Ref, It Was Me! Ref, It Was Me! Apr 2, 2014 09:30 Flag
"TBH I thought it was great result for Man U"
A ''great result''?
As things stand, they are OUT of the CL on away goal rule.
A great result for them would have been to have a lead, even a slender 1 goal lead, to take to the Allianz Arena to defend.
Arsenal played 60 minutes with a man down unlike Man U, if I remember correctly both teams were pegged at 0-0 before we were reduced to 10 men.
- Ref, It Was Me! Ref, It Was Me! Apr 1, 2014 22:01 Flag
"They are simply not CL quality. The same can be said for Arsenal at this present moment in time. Giggs, Ferdinand, and Rooney are blowing like old dray horses trying to chase shadows...its a joke"
Couldn't have said it better myself........... TOTAL DOMINANCE by the AWAY side despite the flukey Vidic headed goal. It is a sad reflection on the state of the EPL.
- Ref, It Was Me! by Ref, It Was Me! Apr 1, 2014 21:57 Flag
1 (away) goal down at home and offered nothing attacking-wise tonight, for a home team parking the bus the way they did tonight it is a sad reflection on the EPL. How did it come to this?
- Ref, It Was Me! Ref, It Was Me! Apr 1, 2014 12:41 Flag
On a serious note, Rikki, what do you make of Moyes' reign thus far?
Do you think he should be given enough time to finish the job he started?
- Ref, It Was Me! Ref, It Was Me! Apr 1, 2014 12:02 Flag
Your team are either 4 top, mid-table fodder (top TEN) or relegation battlers.
Choose one, Rikki.
- Ref, It Was Me! Ref, It Was Me! Apr 1, 2014 11:51 Flag
There’s an old cliche often spouted out by footballing analysts, managers, or fans up and down the country, Rikki.
“The league table doesn't lie,” they say.
Man U are a mid-table side, FACT!
Stop deluding yourself, Rikk, that they aren't..
- Ref, It Was Me! Ref, It Was Me! Mar 31, 2014 22:39 Flag
"Three of those games were against much tougher opposition than Everton have faced since then."
Arsenal have faced much tougher test than the toffees indeed.
Having said that, I think Rikki has a point as midtable teams supporters would perceive teams slightly stronger than their teams as tougher opposition.
I was watching latest Sky Sports' Sunday Supplement debate about possible destination of Luke Shaw in the summer, Mirror's Chief Football Writer Martin Lipton was asked by the programme presenter: ''where do you go if you are Luke Shaw''? And Lipton replied, "I go for United, I go there to play, I go there as first choice because if you go to Chelsea, you will be second choice to Cesar Azpilicueta and I wanna play, he (Shaw) is a first team player, he's played this season, played last season, he's a first team player for a top TEN club."
There you have it delivered to you by a reputable journo, Rikki, United are a ''top TEN club'', no wonder games against Cardiff City, Swansea, Newcastle and Fulham seem like a daunting task to Rikki.
- Ref, It Was Me! Ref, It Was Me! Mar 30, 2014 17:03 Flag
Funny how Rikki's floppy disk-like brain has no recollection whatsoever of the twenty-odd games that have been played before ''the last ten EPL games'' of the season, I guess we should all starting counting points just like Rikki from match day 23. PMSL@rikki!
- Ref, It Was Me! Ref, It Was Me! Mar 30, 2014 15:31 Flag
I guess plucky little Everton putting up a fight, something your bunch of wimps and weaklings failed to do all season, is Rikki's only crumb of comfort on a miserable season.
I'm sure Arsenal are afraid, NOT!
- Ref, It Was Me! Ref, It Was Me! Mar 29, 2014 22:47 Flag
Arsenal have blown it big time I'm afraid, with our inexplicably abject showing against our close rivals away from home. I think there's no way back for us as City still have 2 games in hand. Should City win their games in hand, they would be 9 points ahead of Arsenal with only 6 games to go, that's a huge gap to bridge at this late stage in the season. Had we taken the full 3 points on offer against Swansea, maybe that would have kept us in the race, as things stand, I just can't see the 3 teams above us all collapsing to let Arsenal in again.
The way Palace dismantled Chelsea tactically today makes one wonder how Wenger prepares his team for the head-to-head games against our closest rivals. Palace were very unlucky and didn't deserve to lose at Stamford Bridge early in the season, they got their just reward today thanks to Tony Pulis' tactical nous, Pulis outwitted Mourinho thanks to the way he set his team up. Additionally, Palace were up for it and it showed in their approach as they won all the 50/50 challenges and restricted Chelsea throughout the game to half chances, and Hazard was anonymous for the away side and barely threatened which again was mainly down to the way Pulis set them up.
- Ref, It Was Me! Ref, It Was Me! Mar 26, 2014 21:19 Flag
'Ridicule', Christine? NEVER, that wasn't my intention. The last person on here I would dare to ridicule is Fabongrass.
I just disagreed with his opinion about yesterday's match, end of.
For the record, Fabongrass is his own person and has proved time and again that he can stand up and defend himself against the board nutter like yourself. He has gone out of his way to defend me against the board bullies in the past. I think you must have got the wrong end of the stick with your 'ridicule' nonsense, Chrissy boy.
City have done all the damage they threatened to do to your midtable fodder side, 7-0 aggregate, you can come out of the closet and stop pretending to be someone else, we knew all along that it is the cowardly Kung-fu Navy Seal.
If Man U end the season in 7th position, the only way they will qualify for the Europa League is if Arsenal finish fifth and win the FA Cup. Talk about getting into Europe through the back door, lol.
I for one won't be happy for Arsenal to do them a favour, I hope that that is enough motivation for our lads to get their acts together and get back on track. We are a CL side, not a Europa fodder.
Speaking on Sky Sports after Arsenal conceded a comical equaling goal, the former Man U midfielder said and I quote:
"It’s been a typical week for Arsenal, really,” he said. “They capitulated at Chelsea and it seems to be a similar theme which happens when they play the top teams. It happened at Liverpool, they conceded six against City. For one reason or another, the players just seem to go missing. The Artetas, the Cazorlas, the Rosickys, Ozils although I know he has not played for a bit.
"It seems like they go on the pitch with no discipline. It's as though, 'you four, five midfielders go out there and do what you want - try and score a goal. A few nice one-twos, nice tippy tappy football - but don't bother running back'. That is my thoughts on it.
"I don't know if it is the manager - it just seems that way. Midfield players with no discipline. There are no leaders. No Patrick Vieira, no Adams, or Martin Keown. They need sometimes need a midfielder who say 'look, come beside me for five or 10 minutes and let's stop the flow of attacks.'
“These lot go 2-0 down and carry on what they are doing. They have a walk up front or lose the ball. Play a nice little one-two but they don't bother sprinting back. You wonder why they are in the position you are in. You feel sorry for Arsenal fans. They get the same thing every year. The hint of a title for a few weeks then they go to Chelsea, City or Liverpool and they just do nothing.
"Fans expect Arsenal to go for a League trophy. They are third or fourth but are a million miles away, in my eyes. When we played against Arsenal teams it was really tough. Now, you play Arsenal and just get stuck in and you have won the game."
Although I disagree with his Wilshere assessment but he's bang on the money with the things he said about the perrenial lack of discipline afflicting our side. I think this is a clear indictment of Wenger’s tactics and recent buying policy.
- Ref, It Was Me! Ref, It Was Me! Mar 26, 2014 10:24 Flag
It seems I hit a nerve, Rikki resorting to abuse. Internet bullies like Rikki don't like it when they are being taunted, do they?
"we're also still in the CL."
Yes, but that is entirely down to the luck of the draw. Wait until Bayern wreck havoc into your pathetic midtable side. You won't be crowing anymore after the Bundesliga side done serious damage to your team of weaklings and wimps. I for one I'm eagerly looking forward to that mismatch of a game to see what Man U are made of.
- Ref, It Was Me! Ref, It Was Me! Mar 26, 2014 09:47 Flag
Rikki, you seem to take a lot of interest in what Arsenal are doing than in the terminal decline of your own team.
Your next door neighbours, City, hammered your pathetic bunch of wimps and weaklings 7-0 (aggregate) and that isn't a cause for concern for Rikk. Oh how the mighty have fallen.
- Ref, It Was Me! Ref, It Was Me! Mar 26, 2014 09:27 Flag
"Liverpool and City win convincingly all the time".
Spot on Govinda, let Fabongrass continue to kid himself with his 'the game was won' Wenger- tinted outlook. As we all know, football is a 90 minutes plus injury time game and at no point in that game did I believe that Arsenal were in full control, even when we were leading, I told my partner that we would be pegged back before Swansea equalised.
I honestly thought Wenger knew what he was doing at the start of the season by failing to strengthen the squad adequately, but I should have known that we won't last the season as all the tell tell signs were there at the beginning of the season for anyone who cares to look: How did we ended up with Bendtner, a player we tried to flog all summer, as our backup striker? How can Wenger be serious about challenging the likes of Chelsea when we were planning our season with Chelsea's fringe striker?
This season is looking like another failed season as we stood still if we did manage to hang on to top 4 again and haven't progressed at all from last season.
- Ref, It Was Me! by Ref, It Was Me! Mar 25, 2014 21:52 Flag
Wenger's idiotic decisions not strengthen the depth of the side with real quality contributed largely to this failure than the injuries to key players.
It saddens me to say but Wenger hasn't learned a thing about previous seasons collapse. I for one I've had enough of these recurring rubbish, enough is enough.
- Ref, It Was Me! Ref, It Was Me! Mar 24, 2014 18:00 Flag
"So we may yet see you in the Europa League next season!"
Yikes! ..... You can wish until hell freezes over - it's not going to happen.
Arsenal are a proper CL side, not your typical Yo-yo team like Man U. That's why we are the only team that has never been relegated from the top division of English football.
You can keep your Europa, Rikki......yikes!
- Ref, It Was Me! Ref, It Was Me! Mar 24, 2014 17:10 Flag
"I'm not worried about this season, as long as we spend the money wisely in the summer."
You should be more worried, Rikki. It’s very hard to attract players significantly better than those players you have without offer of CL football. Lets face it, any player worth his salt would want to test themselves at the highest level and you won'y get that playing in a mickey mouse competition like the Europa League. If Man U failed to make CL football next season, I think they would struggle to attract top class quality players they needed to break into the top 4, this is the same problem Spurs had last season as most of the players they signed are decent Europa League standard players but put simply not good enough for CL sides.
Just pray to whichever god you worship that somehow Man U do a Chelsea and win the CL competition this season in order to save your bacon. As Govinda stated above, City, Chelsea, Liverpool, Arsenal and Spurs will strengthen their squad in the summer which would make it even harder to break into the top 4 next season.