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Obviously everyone has their way of interpreting performances but ultimately it is the league stats that count and on that basis the team are playing at the same level as last year - and the main point is, I think - with a less talented playing eleven.
Given that we all make mistakes ( and I agree with you that AVB has made some) I think he's doing a good job at the moment. In fact given that Harry Redknapp had Modric and VDV at his disposal, I think AVB's performance is demonstrably better than Harry's.
I think you have to give people a reasonable amount of time doing a job before you can asses there worth.
Spurs are not going into the championship any time soon.
At the moment we are three points down on the same fixtures last year. This doesn't include the Reading and Southampton games both of which we won (remember we lost at Bolton and drew with Sunderland in the away games - so if you included these as equivalent then we would be 2 points up compared to last year).
Given the injuries at the moment and the fact that we had Modric and VDV last year - as I say - it aint to bad.
Take a while to sort out the team and system. I think a degree of patience is required. Booing at half time and full time is unwarranted. We lost this fixture 2-1 last year.
Spursbabe, you are right. Modric is a massive miss. He is one of the best two or three of his type playing at the moment which is why he went for big money and why we see a big difference in the team.
The recent acquisitions have flair and I think in a while, once they have a chance to all bed in we will see better performances from the team.
Hopefully we won't get a repeat of the one day scenario. I don't think we will. There's an emence amount of talent in the squad and AVB will get it right.
Just a point on the Verthongen comment. No he didn't get taken by Lukaku although he (Lukaku) was a handful.
He did however get rugby tackled to the ground just prior to the WBA goal which was a blatant foul missed by the officials and then in the dying seconds put the ball in the net. Don't know why the goal was disallowed. Anyone know?
Obviously not the result. Great organisation, movement and work rate.Very promising start to the season. Dominated the game in the first half, unlucky not to have been in front at the break.
Badly missed Modric though. Need to get a little more imagination in the center of the park. Hope they sort that out.
Only one thing in 'Arrys mind at the moment..... and thats 'Arry.
Piss off and get the England Job you old fart.
Whatever measure you use.....the bloke aint up to it.
Jol got sacked for coming 5th twice...... with a squad that was no where near as good as the current one.
I think the whole point about the Harry debate is whether the guy can produce the results needed to get to the next level (i.e. Regular champions leauge) which is what everyone connected with Spurs wants to see happen.
The issue with regards team performance is, with all due respect, irrelevant. The squad players are good enough to play well and produce a performance in most games. Every now and again they have an off day but that's life. The consensus of opinion amongst most commentators is that Spurs have one of the best squads in the PL, I think they do, and good players will play well with each other.
The issue is can the team be made/motivated/cajoled to win vital games. That's a management function. At the moment, going purely by results, Harry and his management team (Bond, Jordon et al), are not performing. They didn't perform last year either where we missed out on a champions league spot due to an appalling win rate against the bottom 4 teams.
I don't think anybody doubts that Harry knows football and footballers backwards. He brings young talent on(Bale) and motivates older players (Gallas) to give great performances. He can spot talent a mile off and has brought some good players to the club.
But, what he lacks IMHO, is the ability to strategies a game in the same way as Fergie/Mancini and or any of the top managers can. He appears not to be able to successfully change tactics within the game period. I haven't seen much evidence that his substitutions are effective when things are obviously amiss tactically. He don't win the important ones against superior tacticians (not better teams, there aren't any better teams than Spurs in the PL at the moment). He cant do it. I think he's at the top of his game at the moment. His track record ain't good enough to compete major honors.
John, if you could get a further breakdown you might find that a large percentage of that 60 odd percent possession would have come in the last ten minutes of play (inc 5 min injury time). That coincided with Bale and Modric reverting to their normal positions i.e. Bale wide and Modric play making in the middle of the park, in the eighty fifth minute.
A lot of people on this site and elsewhere have commented that using Modric (who is certainly one of the best play-makers in the PL) out wide wastes his talent, ditto Bale on the right side. Those are tactical decisions from the management team. Since using Scotty Parker as play-maker, Modric wide and Bale in a roving role the teams balance and effectiveness has been diminished.
I appreciate the absence of Lennon forces change but they've tinkered with a shape and balance that perfectly suited their best players and have stopped winning games. Facts speak for themselves.
Agree. Mutually benificial appointment but time for Levy to try to go to the next level for next season. Spurs have an enviable squad lets get someone who is at home at the top level.
No, its not just me, they definitely are going to sleep at half time and waking up groggy for the second half of games. I think they will probably have to stop showing Harry's holiday snaps at half time......"......this is Harry and Sandra on the beach in Sardinia....".
Like I said in the original post.......sort it out. Its not as if we haven't got the talent to play keep ball in the second half.
First of all - well played to everyone (especially Scotty Parker) against QPR. COYS.
However, I've noticed a strange pattern developing. We play the opposition off the park first half, start the second half a little slow and absolutely panic for the last 10 mins of a game.
Now if it happened once or twice you'd think, ok, thats football - but it seems to me that this is happening every time we play.
And the stats seem to bear this out, in that, overall, we score more than the opposition in every 15 minute period of the game except the last 15 mins, where the opposision score more - at the moment it's 4 goals to our 2.
Anyone else noticed this strange phenomenon occurring?
Yeah, Sorry to see him go really. He's a life long spurs fan you know.
He wasn't pretty to look at (in an athletic way I hasten to add) but was bloody effective in most games I saw him play in (including Portsmouth and now Wolves). I certainly would have preferred to keep him over one or two others still at The Lane.
I think he will want to have a good game against us and, hopefully, f%$c up.
Of course he will.
It wouldn't surprise me in the least if Levy has told the little fella he can go either in January or next May and in the meantime keeping the pot warm over at Chavsea and working out who to spend the £40m on when the deal is finally done.
But to fulfill the deal Modric will have to continue to impress the Chavs so that they still want him (to replace old Frank). Course he'll give it some. It's in his (and his agents) interest. Unless he's as thick as Marmite (no disrespect to Marmite)
With all due respect butters, he is worth all of £40m and more.
Levy still has his integrity intact, which longer term is added value.
Only time will tell if the little'un will react badly. I hope he doesn't.
Looking at the money in, money out situation, it seems pretty clear that Levy doesn't reckon 'arry will be around long term, and is building a pot for the new guy.
Lets hope Scottie Parker can run around in front of the central defenders a lot, clearing up, otherwise we are, as you say, "foooked".
The Modric saga will be interesting to watch though.