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ian h 828 posts  |  Last Activity: Jul 4, 2013 15:45 Member since: Jun 24, 2006
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    Toughest EPL Yet ( and 2.3M)

    by Jason Jul 1, 2013 15:26

    Hi, i thought it would be Moyes or Mourinho. SAF likes and rates both. Mourinho doing things like the eye poking etc pretty much made him unwanted. I think Moyes is a better long term bet, but bet is the right word, with any manager. But im happy with the choice. How will he do. Well, i dont think we can expect to dominate like we have done, and that would be the case if SAF were staying. Chelsea and City are going to invest hugely. Arsenal, if they buy wisely are only 2 or 3 good players away from being a threat. Spurs are a threat to the top 4 but not the title this year i feel. Moyes though, if Rooney stays ( if he goes we will buy a striker too ) only really needs a few players. Garay would be good, for experience, but also hed free up Jones for DM in some games. Baines would be nice , but Evra has a year in him if not. Centre mid, im surprised Fellaini hasnt come, and disappointed. But if we get Thiago and one other midfielder and Garay, its a squad with real depth. I think the one plus of Moyes is he will surely fix the midfield. Will we win the league ? I want to see who signs who before i answer. But our squad doesnt need much work.

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    Toughest EPL Yet ( and 2.3M)

    by Jason Jul 1, 2013 15:26

    Why do you feel your team will be the team to beat over United ? Lets face it if moyes can get Everton above you, what will he do with the United squad. Now you may say but Rooney will go, and id say Suarez will go. So who is in Most trouble then ? And do you really think moyes wont get big backing in the transfer market for his first season ? Garay seems likely, Alcantara hopefully, maybe Strootman, Zaha , Rooney would be replaced . I think we will be strong. You are not title challengers. Not even remotely and thats if Suarez stays. You normally talk a lot of sense, maybe you have been hacked. United come Feb will be mathematically uncatchable by your lot.

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    Being: Liverpool

    by Robert M Oct 9, 2012 16:22
    ian h ian h Oct 15, 2012 04:11 Flag

    The 3 envelope tactic, was used by Sir Alex about 15-20 years ago at United, it's in one of the players 'auto'biographies and was well run in the press. At least your manager is trying to copy the best though.

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    Pullis on Suarez

    by Paddy Oct 8, 2012 08:53
    ian h ian h Oct 10, 2012 10:52 Flag

    By your own admission Valencia was fouled.

    Young got pulled up about it quite publicly by Ferguson.

    But you are claiming Suarez is an honest player, which is utter crap. Other players are irrelevant in that discussion. Suarez is a repeat offender as a diver, and a multiple offender in football. How can he be honest when he Saved on the line, or bites, or racially abuses players. All of which he has been found guilty of ? Honest come off it. He's scum, but he's your scum

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    TIKI TAKA FOOTBALL

    by John Oct 8, 2012 15:41

    Hopefully he means people like Messi, Xavi, Iniesta and Busquets ? If however he means people like Gerrard , Suarez and if he is even going down that road, I couldn't imagine anyone else being described as remotely the best 3 or 4 in the premier league. I don't include Gerrard or Suarez as the best in the prem.

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    Pullis on Suarez

    by Paddy Oct 8, 2012 08:53

    That suggests to you he is not a dishonest player ? Seriously because he stayed on his feet once in a situation where he could have dived ( and it would have been a dive as he clearly stayed on his feet ) . So all the examples of his diving , his handball in the World Cup, his biting an opponent the other issue we won't mention for fear of changing topic, all these examples of what a cheat he is are outweighed by him staying on his feet once ? In a game where he dived blatantly. This makes him honest ? He just makes some bad decisions occasionally FFS those decisions that are bad , are they dishonest ones ? You are fairly reasonable Dave usually, but just as myopic as the worst on this occasion

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    Energy in the middle needed

    by the one and only Oct 6, 2012 19:40

    Did you just put Arsenal in the same sentence as United, City and Barcelona ? Which one of them has won nothing in nearly a decade ?

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    Nani

    by jim w Sep 28, 2012 22:44
    ian h ian h Sep 29, 2012 06:02 Flag

    Sad way to leave. I like Nani and think he has been one of our true flair players. But with the signings we have made this year , it looks like our style will change. I think he probably realises he is the wrong player for our midfield now. Probably frustrated at not getting a move in the summer and its boiled over.

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    Not ALL Dippers Play their 'Victim' Card!

    by Le Professeur Sep 28, 2012 22:19
    ian h ian h Sep 29, 2012 04:01 Flag

    Though dsteer you have just admitted it was a penalty, by saying the shirt pull was 'evident' in one frame of footage.

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    Not ALL Dippers Play their 'Victim' Card!

    by Le Professeur Sep 28, 2012 22:19
    ian h ian h Sep 29, 2012 03:56 Flag

    Dsteer , I don't see how anyone with even the most myopic of vision, can deny Johnson flew in and put his hand on Valencias back. Johnson at the time knew it was a penalty. Did he go down easily ? Don't they all. Do Gerrard and Suarez dive a lot ? Have Liverpool benefitted from penalties that were 'soft' ?

    As for playing us off the park. You are set up like an anaconda to squeeze and suffocate teams. But like an anaconda you have lots of strength and brawn and size, but no venom. I am not that sure you even have teeth.

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    The Midfield General

    by Colyn Sep 27, 2012 08:26
    ian h ian h Sep 28, 2012 06:34 Flag

    Allen and 2 other Swansea players were in the top 6 for most passes last season. I think Rodgers way of playing will come good in the end. You have to have goal scoring midfielders and a prolific striker to make it truly successful in my opinion. A prime Van Nisterlrooy for example would have got a hat trick against us ( united ) at the weekend.

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    United victory

    by Eric Cantona Sep 24, 2012 20:50
    ian h ian h Sep 27, 2012 10:08 Flag

    Our midfield , is our easiest to exploit area. But I am maybe being an optimist, but I STILL have great hopes for Anderson. I rate Cleverley highly. Together I think they can be very good, particularly with Kagawa in front of them. But how does the boss accommodate everyone that will be the trick.

    Against you he opted for older wiser heads, and whilst it was not pretty it got the result. If Shelvey had been wiser I don't think you would have lost.

    I think there will be lots of rotation , and in some games our midfield will really struggle or be over run. But if that allows our forwards to be a real goal threat I think we have enough quality there to do well. We are the opposite of you in that we have real depth in forward flair positions but no real solid tackling midfielders.

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    United victory

    by Eric Cantona Sep 24, 2012 20:50
    ian h ian h Sep 27, 2012 04:34 Flag

    Vidic is a huge loss. Smalling and Jones compound it. Vidic may have been rushed back due to others injuries , who knows. But despite having 5 rather good centre backs, we probably do need to invest there in January. The fact Carrick has had brief runs there for 3 seasons tells me we need more.

    Fletcher returning will allow us to protect them better than last season. But it think we will need all of our goal threat right now as we look leaky. Will make for exciting games, if not a bit infuriating. But all in all I think the squad looks strong. A few more players back and we will see what we can do.

    I don't think you will, or even want you to go down. But if you allow Rodgers to change your style as he will, he needs to be given a good run.mor the next guy, unless it's Martinez, will have to undo all the work and start over. I think though this season, unless you spend big on strikers in Jan you will finish bottom half.

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    United victory

    by Eric Cantona Sep 24, 2012 20:50
    ian h ian h Sep 26, 2012 16:16 Flag

    Psredpool, on another day Evans could have gone, RVP should have got booked, but I don't honestly think it was red. Suarez could have got a penalty.

    When you put 4 past us a season or so back, Lucas could have got 4 or 5 yellows that went unpunished. He kicked us all over the park. He was immense you guys thought. If he got booked he would have done nothing else, if he got sent off, who knows what happens. There are other examples I could give from that and other games. On that day I felt we didn't get the rub of the green. This weekend you didn't. I think you will feel like this many times this season, doing well possession wise but losing. If you put 5 solid midfielders and Suarez in front of your defence, you should be winning tackles, harrying, pressuring teams, I would expect that, but that is not what wins games, I wont expect many goals from you. I predict you will be bottom 6 on goals scored this season.

    So yes you could feel a bit hard done by, on some decisions. But that's papering over a massive crack. A crack where most teams have strikers.

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    United victory

    by Eric Cantona Sep 24, 2012 20:50
    ian h ian h Sep 26, 2012 14:01 Flag

    Watch the video again, johnsons hand is clearly on Valencias back, how hard I don't know, but he was moving very fast so I'd say hard enough.

    Evans did not warrant a red card. His studs were up, but your fella was high , studs up and that's why he got a straight red.

    You lost to a massively depleted, out of form United side. At home. Look on the bright side though , this is as close as you will get to United points wise this season.

    If Suarez gets injured at the same time Gerrard has his annual break down, then you will be in real trouble. There is no goal threat, all the possession in the world counts for nothing if you can't score.

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    Too good to go down.

    by mel n Sep 25, 2012 09:24
    ian h ian h Sep 25, 2012 13:49 Flag

    I think you should be thinking top 10 , top 4 is a lot more than one signing away. Unless its Messi.

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    Too good to go down.

    by mel n Sep 25, 2012 09:24
    ian h ian h Sep 25, 2012 12:58 Flag

    I am a United fan, I agree you had large portions of the game against us. But and here's the problem in my opinion, you play with 6 midfielders . I would expect you to have possession and to overwhelm many a midfield. I am obviously including Suarez as a midfielder, I know he is not, but I feel he is more midfielder than striker if you look at his goal threat. Or his physical presence. Berbatov scored more goals last year than he did. I think there will be many games this year that you will feel you should have got something out of but didn't. Because you won't score enough.

    United were missing Rooney, Vidic, Young, Smalling and Jones. Cleverley and Anderson were withdrawn for wiser heads. De Gea was out. It was not anything like a full strength United side. At Anfield. Playing badly disjointed football. They still beat you, because you only have Gerrard and Suarez who will get goals. RVP will get more than them combined and the next highest Liverpool scorer this season.

    Possession, hard work, tackling count for nothing if you can't score. Relegation I doubt. But when talking about Liverpool it should never be just doubtful.

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    what this board said before RVP signed!

    by A Yahoo! User Aug 16, 2012 11:19
    ian h ian h Aug 17, 2012 16:13 Flag

    What did I say before he was signed ? Or does it not help your thread ?

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    RVP to UTD?!

    by A Yahoo! User Jul 19, 2012 17:53
    ian h ian h Jul 21, 2012 09:10 Flag

    Dsteer, Van Persie was Arsenals only hope. So they relied on him. If , and I don't think he will , he came to us the burden would be less. Rooney , Welbeck, Hernandez , Nani, Young, Valencia all score goals. Apart from Valencia they are all versatile in the positions they play. I am going to go against the grain, I think RVP would be a good signing, yet like most I would prefer the money to be spent elsewhere. But if he comes to us, and got injured, we would not be forced to rush him back , as Arsenal have in the past , or as Liverpool were forced to do with Torres. We would also be able to rest Rooney, and still have a real threat. It would not be a bad signing. Just unlikely. Also probably over priced too.

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    Players from the 1990s premiership

    by Clive Jun 2, 2012 07:20

    I would have a peak Keane and Scholes. Those 2 alone would win us the title. Schmeichel because no matter how good De Gea is he will be going some to match he great Dane. Stam slightly over Cantona, simply because our goal threat is good, it would be even better with Keane and the ginger ninja. So improving the defence wins .