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  • Man Utd's attack is always about - cross, cross, cross, cross, cross, cross, cross, cross, on and on. Typical but highly effective, dangerous and fast cross ball tactics.

    Carrick's pass was in fact a deep cross from left to right, aiming at Giggs. Once Giggs got around Bosingwa near the touchline, Giggs could have 2 choice: either cross it in front of goal, hoping someone would tap-in or poach it, or cut it back to in-coming and on-rushing teammates, in this case Rooney. He succeeded, and the goal was simple and easy.

    Man Utd's tactics are always like this - Start with cross balls from left to right or right to left, then find a way or two to cross or cut back inside the penalty box (sometimes just outside the edge of the box). And their teammates are always ready - either waiting to poach, or find a space to receive the cut back balls.

    Goals scored like this are pretty easy goals. You don't need high talent to do it. Just need a lot of practice. Practice makes perfect. They only need hardworking players to keep trying and trying to succeed.

    Thus if you look at Man Utd team, they have hardworking players like Carrick, Fletcher, Park, Valencia. They are good players but not highly talented ones. Following and playing these cross ball tactics over and over again makes them highly useful to Man Utd. They won't get tired doing this.

    Plus they have solid defense in Vidic, Rio, Evra, VDS, together with these hardworking players, simply make their defensive job easier.

    Up front the only players that can be called talented are Rooney and Berbatov (or perhaps Nani as well I don't know). But Rooney is more useful in this cross ball tactics than Berbatov as he is faster and more energetic.

    Hernandez is good, but not a highly talented type of player, just normal. But he is the fastest striker in PL thus make him highly useful to these cross ball tactics - He is fast to receive cross balls or cut back balls. Thus scoring 17 goals now is not a surprise at all. But it doesn't mean he is highly talented though. He is good. But the highly effective cross ball tactics just make him look like he is the best.

    In fact these cross ball tactics make everyone of their attackers look like the best - Rooney, Nani, Berbatov, Hernandez. But if you look at some stats, more than 60% of their goals come directly from cross balls. If include some "indirect" cross balls (attack started with crosses, ended with passes, deflection, gifted own goals, cut back balls etc.), the stats could be even more appalling.

    Hernandez's goals - about 80% from cross balls
    Rooney's goals (last season) - more than 70% from cross balls
    Berbatov's goals - more than 60% from cross balls
    Just estimated figures - directly or indirectly from cross balls.

    But without these tactics, their players are not really as good as people think. And their team would not have scored so many goals as they currently have now.

    And because they only need hardworking but not highly talented players who can play these tactics or system well, they only need to spend less on new, cheap players. Glazers must be very happy they have Fergie.

    Fergie is a genius.

    So to stop or beat Man Utd, you only need to beat one man - Fergie.

    To beat Fergie, you need to break his tactics - the highly effective cross ball tactics.

    Fast cross ball tactics + hardworking normal talent players + solid defense, all these are enough for them to succeed. It is their secret formula or some kind.

  • Man Utd's attack is always about - cross, cross, cross, cross, cross, cross, cross, cross, on and on. Typical but highly effective, dangerous and fast cross ball tactics.

    Carrick's pass was in fact a deep cross from left to right, aiming at Giggs. Once Giggs got around Bosingwa near the touchline, Giggs could have 2 choice: either cross it in front of goal, hoping someone would tap-in or poach it, or cut it back to in-coming and on-rushing teammates, in this case Rooney. He succeeded, and the goal was simple and easy.

    Man Utd's tactics are always like this - Start with cross balls from left to right or right to left, then find a way or two to cross or cut back inside the penalty box (sometimes just outside the edge of the box). And their teammates are always ready - either waiting to poach, or find a space to receive the cut back balls.

    Goals scored like this are pretty easy goals. You don't need high talent to do it. Just need a lot of practice. Practice makes perfect. They only need hardworking players to keep trying and trying to succeed.

    Thus if you look at Man Utd team, they have hardworking players like Carrick, Fletcher, Park, Valencia. They are good players but not highly talented ones. Following and playing these cross ball tactics over and over again makes them highly useful to Man Utd. They won't get tired doing this.

    Plus they have solid defense in Vidic, Rio, Evra, VDS, together with these hardworking players, simply make their defensive job easier.

    Up front the only players that can be called talented are Rooney and Berbatov (or perhaps Nani as well I don't know). But Rooney is more useful in this cross ball tactics than Berbatov as he is faster and more energetic.

    Hernandez is good, but not a highly talented type of player, just normal. But he is the fastest striker in PL thus make him highly useful to these cross ball tactics - He is fast to receive cross balls or cut back balls. Thus scoring 17 goals now is not a surprise at all. But it doesn't mean he is highly talented though. He is good. But the highly effective cross ball tactics just make him look like he is the best.

    In fact these cross ball tactics make everyone of their attackers look like the best - Rooney, Nani, Berbatov, Hernandez. But if you look at some stats, more than 60% of their goals come directly from cross balls. If include some "indirect" cross balls (attack started with crosses, ended with passes, deflection, gifted own goals, cut back balls etc.), the stats could be even more appalling.

    Hernandez's goals - about 80% from cross balls
    Rooney's goals (last season) - more than 70% from cross balls
    Berbatov's goals - more than 60% from cross balls
    Just estimated figures - directly or indirectly from cross balls.

    But without these tactics, their players are not really as good as people think. And their team would not have scored so many goals as they currently have now.

    And because they only need hardworking but not highly talented players who can play these tactics or system well, they only need to spend less on new, cheap players. Glazers must be very happy they have Fergie.

    Fergie is a genius.

    So to stop or beat Man Utd, you only need to beat one man - Fergie.

    To beat Fergie, you need to break his tactics - the highly effective cross ball tactics.

    Fast cross ball tactics + hardworking normal talent players + solid defense, all these are enough for them to succeed. It is their secret formula or some kind.

  • Just want to list some players being recognized as underrated or overrated:


    Berbatov - slightly overrated, but he has real skill though, albeit a bit flamboyant.

    Javier Hernandez - very overrated, especially overrated by Man Utd fans. He scored about 80% of easy goals from crosses i.e. headers, poacher goals, tap-ins. Without all these crosses (Man Utd are specialist in crosses), his impact can be significantly reduced.

    Rooney - Extremely overrated. Not that he is a bad player. He is good. But extremely overrated and overhyped by English Media. He scored more than 70% goals from crosses last season, just like Hernandez this season (like I said, Man Utd are crossing expert).
    Goals from crosses = mostly easy goals - tap-ins, headers, poaching goals.
    Scored a lot of easy goals and people easily think he is the best = overrated
    Scored a lot of easy goals + overrated by English Media = Extremely overrated.

    If my grandmother were taller and faster than Rooney or Hernandez, playing with Man Utd the cross ball expert, my grandmother could easily be the season-end top scorer by scoring a lot of easy goals from crosses and easily voted the footballer of the year, as long as she were English. LOL.


    Talent wise :Berbatov > Rooney > Hernandez
    Suitable to the team (cross ball tactics) : Rooney > Hernandez > Berbatov

    Thus poor but talented Berbatov being a sub recently.


    Gareth Bale - Very overrated. This young kid has potential and fast. But if he were without his speed it looks like he could be nothing. Very overrated by English Media just because the English media don't want Tevez to win the footballer of the year (PFA player's player of the year, voted by players). Neither does Fergie.

    The English media always talk about Bale's Hat-trick against Inter and his "fun" on Maicon. But besides that, besides a very few games that he played well, sorry to say, he is nothing. Too young to win the PFA but the English Media want him to win it, because of one guy - Tevez.

    Which come to the last footballer that almost every Man Utd fans really hate:

    Tevez - underrated, and sometimes very underrated. Underrated by English media. They always use the word "workrate" to describe him but never use the word "talented". But the English media always called rooney "superb", even if rooney just scored some easy tap-ins from crosses set up easily but his teammates.

    Tevez - underrated by English media as they don't want him to become the first Argentina and South America player to win the prestigious Footballer of the Year in England soil. They promote Gareth Bale - a 21 year-old kid instead without even consider that Tevez is already 3-times-in-a-row South American Footballer of the year and Brazilian League Best Player of the year. They promote the 21 year-old kid instead. They are biased enough not to want an Argie to win it.
    It is about time Tevez wins the honour of Footballer of the year, simply because he is fully deserved to win it compared to others.

    But the English Media have other ideas, or agenda. Man Utd fans hate him and don't want that to happen as well. Fergie doesn't want him to win as well because he was not worth 25m pound two season ago. It could be embarrassing a "not worthy player" wins the highest honour.

    But I don't think Tevez would care a bit about winning it or not though.

  • Just want to list some players being recognized as underrated or overrated:


    Berbatov - slightly overrated, but he has real skill though, albeit a bit flamboyant.

    Javier Hernandez - very overrated, especially overrated by Man Utd fans. He scored about 80% of easy goals from crosses i.e. headers, poacher goals, tap-ins. Without all these crosses (Man Utd are specialist in crosses), his impact can be significantly reduced.

    Rooney - Extremely overrated. Not that he is a bad player. He is good. But extremely overrated and overhyped by English Media. He scored more than 70% goals from crosses last season, just like Hernandez this season (like I said, Man Utd are crossing expert).
    Goals from crosses = mostly easy goals - tap-ins, headers, poaching goals.
    Scored a lot of easy goals and people easily think he is the best = overrated
    Scored a lot of easy goals + overrated by English Media = Extremely overrated.

    If my grandmother were taller and faster than Rooney or Hernandez, playing with Man Utd the cross ball expert, my grandmother could easily be the season-end top scorer by scoring a lot of easy goals from crosses and easily voted the footballer of the year, as long as she were English. LOL.


    Talent wise :Berbatov > Rooney > Hernandez
    Suitable to the team (cross ball tactics) : Rooney > Hernandez > Berbatov

    Thus poor but talented Berbatov being a sub recently.


    Gareth Bale - Very overrated. This young kid has potential and fast. But if he were without his speed it looks like he could be nothing. Very overrated by English Media just because the English media don't want Tevez to win the footballer of the year (PFA player's player of the year, voted by players). Neither does Fergie.

    The English media always talk about Bale#$%$-trick against Inter and his "fun" on Maicon. But besides that, besides a very few games that he played well, sorry to say, he is nothing. Too young to win the PFA but the English Media want him to win it, because of one guy - Tevez.

    Which come to the last footballer that almost every Man Utd fans really hate:

    Tevez - underrated, and sometimes very underrated. Underrated by English media. They always use the word "workrate" to describe him but never use the word "talented". But the English media always called rooney "superb", even if rooney just scored some easy tap-ins from crosses set up easily but his teammates.

    Tevez - underrated by English media as they don't want him to become the first Argentina and South America player to win the prestigious Footballer of the Year in England soil. They promote Gareth Bale - a 21 year-old kid instead without even consider that Tevez is already 3-times-in-a-row South American Footballer of the year and Brazilian League Best Player of the year. They promote the 21 year-old kid instead. They are biased enough not to want an Argie to win it.
    It is about time Tevez wins the honour of Footballer of the year, simply because he is fully deserved to win it compared to others.

    But the English Media have other ideas, or agenda. Man Utd fans hate him and don't want that to happen as well. Fergie doesn't want him to win as well because he was not worth 25m pound two season ago. It could be embarrassing a "not worthy player" wins the highest honour.

    But I don't think Tevez would care a bit about winning it or not though.

  • Reply to

    World Player of the Year 09-10 (So Far)

    by James Feb 4, 2010 22:46
    leonmathilda leonmathilda Feb 5, 2010 23:19 Flag

    You are right. Traditionally the winners were picked from teams playing in Champions League. They even ignored those played in Copa Libertadores. Even if Tevez gets to play in World Cup, still don't think World Cup performance alone count, plus Messi is guaranteed the regular start in World Cup. So unless "miracle" happens, better luck next season, Carlitos.

    I remember Cannavaro exceptional performance in World Cup won him the award....

    Rooney played well, but so as Defoe. They both scored goals like fun, but that alone doesn't guarantee to be world best. Something else counts...
    Unless Rooney gets to score important goals in Champions League and World Cup as well, then he will have his chance. So far Rooney score 20 PL goals and 1 Carling Cup goal. No goal in Champions League. Good but not good enough for the World Player of the Year.

    Tevez even played slightly better than C. Ronaldo this season, at least for now. And Ronaldo's contribution is being shared out quite evenly by his teammates, especially Higuain. So, for now, the outstanding one has to be Messi.

  • Reply to

    World Player of the Year 09-10 (So Far)

    by James Feb 4, 2010 22:46
    leonmathilda leonmathilda Feb 5, 2010 03:41 Flag

    Seriously, I think it will eventually come between the 2 Argentinian best - Messi and Tevez.

    Feel surprised about Tevez? I am not.

    If other teams begin to learn not to leave any room for Man Utd to pass and shoot (Arsenal made these terrible mistakes), Rooney's influence could eventually slow down.

    So, my verdict - Tevez or Messi.

  • Reply to

    rooney will be poty

    by A Yahoo! User Jan 24, 2010 19:26
    leonmathilda leonmathilda Jan 24, 2010 20:52 Flag

    "the award is judged over the majority of a season, not the last 2 months"

    Yeah, I know, but I reckon it continues till April, so it is still too early to tell.

    Rooney scored some goals early in the season, then quiet a bit, then recently scored again.

    Fabregas has been on and off mostly due to injury, but when he is not injured, everyone can see his influence to Arsenal.

    Tevez got a slow start due to pre-season injury, as well as joining a new club. So we have to take that into account as Rooney and Fabregas are playing with the same clubs for some time now. But Tevez has surged so fast that catch the eyes of everyone. If he can continue with the form like that, it will be some thing to watch and could take the eyes of others from Rooney or Fabregas.

    So, it is hard to tell now. Don't forget but I think you realise, POTY is chosen by professional footballers by votes. The one who catch their eyes most will be the winner.

  • Reply to

    rooney will be poty

    by A Yahoo! User Jan 24, 2010 19:26
    leonmathilda leonmathilda Jan 24, 2010 20:17 Flag

    Rooney will be Player of the Season? Perhaps speak too soon, for now.

    Being top scorer doesn't automatically mean he will be Player of the Season.

    We have to look at how consistent a player can play well this season, plus how significant the player's contribution to his club.

    Other contenders, for now, include Fabregas and Tevez (surprised!)

    It takes Rooney half a season + 1 month to score 19 goals, but it takes Tevez just less than 2 months to score 13 goals (total), or 10 PL goals. Fabregas' influence with Arsenal is very outstanding so far as well, scoring 11 goals.

    So, after Rooney bagged 4 goals, it looks like he is the front runner now, but watch out for Tevez to continue his best form, as well as Fabregas to continue winning games for Arsenal.

    So until April, it is hard to say who will win it now. But for those who don't like Tevez, better pray Rooney won't get injured, or Tevez slowed down his form. lol